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re: FDA researchers just admitted there’s a link between blood clots and the Covid-19 vaccine

Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34658 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:28 pm to
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Totally just a coincidence


Explain to me the mechanism then if a shot with MORE mRNA copies coding for the spike protein causes LESS clots


ETA

I’d buy it if the risk profile in Moderna was higher.

Hell it makes straight up sense-myocarditis and embolisms were huge issues with Covid so why wouldn’t they be a risk for a shot that causes your body to form part of the virus.

It just doesn’t make logical sense that it wouldn’t be higher in Moderna if that was the case though
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 9:31 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84114 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:29 pm to
Explain why unvaccinated aren’t dying
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:30 pm to
1. They’re already plastered all over r/hermancainaward

2. “The vaccinated” aren’t dying
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175547 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:30 pm to
Have you watched Died Suddenly yet?

Go watch it and then explain to me why the problems in the film aren't in the unvaccinated


LINK
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62139 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:31 pm to
Strannix, take a bow.

By the way, I was in a meeting yesterday with the head of a union who usually rips on his MAGA rank and file and their conspiracy theories. He said they are taking donations for a guy "whose blood protein levels are through the roof, probably because of the vax." Yikes.
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 7:50 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34658 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:32 pm to
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Explain why unvaccinated aren’t dying


Because many vulnerable died prior to the vaccine from OG Covid?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175547 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:32 pm to
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1. They’re already plastered all over r/hermancainaward



Vaccinated and unvaccinated are both dying of Covid. They all probably had preexisting conditions. This is a stupid "gotcha" and only pathetic people would visit and laugh at that subreddit.
Posted by furrydogs
USA
Member since Oct 2007
464 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:33 pm to
I had heard about some studies but my PCP basically thinks I'm a conspiracy theorist when I try and link COVID and my clot. Western medicine is not keeping up.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34658 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:33 pm to
No. You didn’t answer my question.

Why would clots be higher in the shot with less mRNA if the mRNA vaccine is the problem?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175547 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:33 pm to
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Because many vulnerable died prior to the vaccine from OG Covid?





He meant why aren't they dying of random blood clots
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:34 pm to
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Died Suddenly




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Instead, the film relies on anecdotes, personal beliefs, and unproven assumptions. The comments from one embalmer who didn’t identify himself illustrate the unscientific approach of the film: “I’m seeing all of these strange clots, I’m hearing stories of blood clots, and embolisms, and sudden heart attacks. Scientists say there has been an increased rise, a sharp rise in unexplained deaths during the pandemic, deaths that are not listed as COVID-19-related”. However, hearing about things alone doesn’t necessarily mean that they are true or that the COVID-19 vaccines caused these events. Several embalmers explained to PolitiFact that they had indeed noticed an increase in the presence of blood clots. But contrary to the claims, these clots appeared in both vaccinated and unvaccinated people who had died of COVID-19, some of them “long before vaccinations were available”.


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Kirsch claimed without any supporting evidence that “The vaccine can kill you in two different ways”, in the short term or through blood clotting in the longer term—specifically, in five months. We reached out to Kirsch to ask for evidence and will update this review if/when we hear back. However, none of them provided new evidence or data. Instead they repeated older claims that were mostly based on misinterpreted studies and misused data from vaccine surveillance systems like the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Health Feedback already reviewed most of these claims and found them to be inaccurate and unsupported by scientific evidence.


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Certain—but not all—COVID-19 vaccines have been associated with a slight increase in the risk of Guillain-Barré syndrome and rare cases of blood clotting and heart inflammation. However, such cases are rare and less likely to occur following vaccination than from COVID-19. Multiple studies showed no association between COVID-19 vaccination and the risk of cancer or pregnancy complications[5-8]. In fact, pregnant women are strongly recommended to get vaccinated against COVID-19 since they are at a higher risk of severe COVID-19 and COVID-19 increases the risk of pregnancy complications[9,10]. By reducing the risk of severe COVID-19, vaccination thus improves the outcomes for both the mother and the baby[11


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Both the trailer and the film claimed that if you search on Google the term “died suddenly” you get countless stories of healthy young people who are “dropping dead” without explanation, allegedly due to COVID-19 vaccines. Within this narrative, the film showed tens of distressing headlines and images of people collapsing. This juxtaposition may mislead viewers into believing that those headlines and images are of people who died following vaccination. However, that is false. A quick Google search of some of the names shows that many of these people are actually alive.


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Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
9474 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:34 pm to
Those who volunteered for the social experiment injection will never admit they nuked their immune system bc the truth is too terrifying.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130041 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:35 pm to
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everything you said is a lie



You’re right. The vax TOTALLY stopped people from getting Covid.
No wait.
It prevented people from spreading Covid.
No that’s not right either.
The fact is it was pushed and rushed without due diligence and we don’t know what ill effects will come from the absolute evil of pushing an untested vaccine on the population. Not to mention eleventy boosters.

Trying to force it on people is unforgivable
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:37 pm to
find a new pcp

LINK

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TE rates of COVID-19 are high and associated with higher risk of death. Robust evidence from ongoing clinical trials is needed to determine the impact of thromboprophylaxis on TE and mortality risk of COVID-19.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175547 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:37 pm to
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Why would clots be higher in the shot with less mRNA if the mRNA vaccine is the problem?




Do you recall when the J&J shot was halted for concerns over clotting?

LINK


So 2 out of 3 vaccines mentioned are now linked to clots but you still are saying it's simply a coincidence.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175547 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:40 pm to
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A quick Google search of some of the names shows that many of these people are actually alive.


There is another person in Louisiana with my exact first, middle, and last name that is 1 year younger than me. I am sure the people mentioned in the film all had unique names that no one else in their states has and a quick google search definitely proved they were alive.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84114 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:41 pm to
You just replied to a 2 month old alt act
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175547 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:42 pm to
Yea it's clear it's an alter. Just trying to figure out which OT Covidian was banned recently.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34658 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:42 pm to
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Do you recall when the J&J shot was halted for concerns over clotting? LINK So 2 out of 3 vaccines mentioned are now linked to clots but you still are saying it's simply a coincidence.



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ETA I’d buy it if the risk profile in Moderna was higher. Hell it makes straight up sense-myocarditis and embolisms were huge issues with Covid so why wouldn’t they be a risk for a shot that causes your body to form part of the virus. It just doesn’t make logical sense that it wouldn’t be higher in Moderna if that was the case though



I literally said that it wouldn’t be surprising to me if shots were associated with an increased risk of clots. Just like the virus is.

It just doesn’t make sense if the shot with more mRNA has less clotting risk.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75804 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:45 pm to
The jab is a time released death bomb.
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