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Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:42 pm to CAD703X
Optimistically, people take their magic shot and they can make it an inflection point in their life where they adopt healthier habits.
Pessimistically, my insurance premiums pay for the shot, they don't change any habits, they balloon right back to their previous weight, and now I'm paying for their foot amputation AND a permanent cycle of Mounjaro.
I hope it's more of the former than the latter.
Pessimistically, my insurance premiums pay for the shot, they don't change any habits, they balloon right back to their previous weight, and now I'm paying for their foot amputation AND a permanent cycle of Mounjaro.
I hope it's more of the former than the latter.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:42 pm to letsgobowling110599
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And in the case of these weight-loss drugs, some of them can have negative effects on the heart, especially stimulants.
moreso than being obese?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:42 pm to lsu777
Will the jardiance girl be in the commercials?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:43 pm to Cosmo
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48 lb average is ridiculous. I would look like an Aushwitz survivor if I dropped 48 lbs.
When you start at 350 and lose 48 lbs you are still fat AF
Yeah but cock size increases rapidly during this time.
If he makes to the stage where he can see his pee pee again, he might just make it.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:44 pm to Salmon
Forget safety.
The best way to determine the efficacy of weight loss drugs is to do a longitudinal study where they give the drug to a population sample of obese people for 1 year and then wean them off of it to see if the subjects can maintain their weight.
If the subjects maintain their weight for a certain amount of time after they come off the weight loss drug, then it's safe to say that drug is effective.
The best way to determine the efficacy of weight loss drugs is to do a longitudinal study where they give the drug to a population sample of obese people for 1 year and then wean them off of it to see if the subjects can maintain their weight.
If the subjects maintain their weight for a certain amount of time after they come off the weight loss drug, then it's safe to say that drug is effective.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:45 pm to lsu777
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lsu777
Apparently for a lot of people it is hard
Seeing you actually make excuses for people with no will power negates a lot of your posting history for me and likely others who read your HF posts.
May as well just go all in and advocate for bulimia.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:46 pm to letsgobowling110599
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The best way to determine the efficacy of weight loss drugs is to do a longitudinal study where they give the drug to a sample size of obese people for 1 year and then wean them off of it to see if the subjects can maintain their weight.
they did
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:47 pm to lsu777
Only for this drug but not for the others
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:47 pm to BeachDude022
i dont take it but i know when reupping insurance i saw both mounjaro and wegovy listed on the specialty script list
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:48 pm to lsu777
All part of the plan to make us less hungry and eating bugs
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:49 pm to LoneStar23
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All part of the plan to make us less hungry and eating bugs
Steak for everyone would be cheaper.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:49 pm to Ingeniero
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they don't change any habits, they balloon right back to their previous weight, and now I'm paying for their foot amputation AND a permanent cycle of Mounjaro.
Exactly. Not even the best weight loss drug will change a person's diet and lifestyle; it's on the person to make the change. This is a short cut, that's all it is. And it's not going to permanently fix the problem.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:49 pm to SuperSaint
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if someone weighs 400lb they have never cared about their health and will continue to not care about their health
This is false. As a 6'5" 400lb man, I care a lot about my health but I find it overwhelming to deal with. Eating is very much an addiction and much like former heroin addicts, I still think about unhealthy food everyday with the difference being I still have to consume food. Food that I don't really want to eat.(I understand heroin is a much worse addiction than food) That's all to say it's hard and I've been strong enough to lose weight, but not strong enough to keep it off.
As others have said, the benefits outweigh the risks and I think these semaglutide type drugs can jump start better health so people can make better decisions easier.
This concludes my ted talk.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:50 pm to letsgobowling110599
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some of them can have negative effects on the heart, especially stimulants.
this isnt a stimulant and doenst affect the heart. yall act like this shite hasnt been around over a decade for diabetes
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aren't sustainable for long-term weight maintenance.
yea they are dude
im personally like you and love working out, but not everyone is me. rather not see fatties all damn day everywhere i look. and any sides from this pale in comparison of being obese.
frankly ill be nice and tell you...you dont know wtf you are talking about.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:51 pm to letsgobowling110599
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And it's not going to permanently fix the problem
Anyone claiming that?
This thread is vintage OT. On one hand everyone pisses and moans about fatties. Then when fatties have a way to no longer be fatties, the OT pisses and moans about it. Classic.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:51 pm to lsu777
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been around well over a decade for diabetes
A clinical study published in August looked at 15,000 non-diabetic individuals taking GLP-1RA agents.
The conclusions were that the ones deemed most effective for weight loss also had "moderate risk of adverse events."
GLP-1RAs that didn't work as well for weight loss similarly had a lower risk.
Correlation? We probably don't know yet.
But there hasn't been ten years of trials using non-diabetics.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:51 pm to Sao
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Seeing you actually make excuses for people with no will power negates a lot of your posting history for me and likely others who read your HF posts.
May as well just go all in and advocate for bulimia.
but im not, i just realize everyone isnt me and that if this gives people a head start, a kick in the arse or what ever it is they need
and
i dont have to see fatties everywhere all day and fatties clogging up the health care system im all for it.
all for health thru chemistry if thats what people need
i mean do you feel that away about dick pills when they came out?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:52 pm to letsgobowling110599
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Not even the best weight loss drug will change a person's diet and lifestyle; it's on the person to make the change. This is a short cut, that's all it is. And it's not going to permanently fix the problem.
is anybody arguing otherwise?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:52 pm to lsu777
Healthy weight is so important to overall health. I am surprised the medical industry has seeemingly ignored this problem. Perhaps because producing medications to treat the ill effects of obesity is more profitable.
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