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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:34 am to GaryMyMan
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:34 am to GaryMyMan
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Not very good at what? I just said I bought a gun without a background check from a guy with a booth at a gun show. Just an anecdote, bro
You're being intellectually dishonest on purpose. You could have bought the same gun from your next door neighbor without any paperwork either.
Are you seriously advocating the all transactions between private individuals be monitored?
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:34 am to gatorrocks
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What gun show was this?
The big one they do in Shreveport right before hunting season every year. Like I said: just an anecdote.
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You're being intellectually dishonest on purpose. You could have bought the same gun from your next door neighbor without any paperwork either.
You're a crazy person if that's how you interpreted what I posted. SEVERAL people said "The gun show loophole doesn't exist" and I just told my story of purchasing a rifle at a gun show from a vendor without a BG check. How is that intellectually dishonest?
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:36 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:34 am to GaryMyMan
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But there is gun control. As much as I'd like to get a silenced MP5 with the Navy trigger group from Bass Pro, I can't do that. Because gun control.
So, you are working to lessen gun control I assume? Or are you arguing for more gun control? I'm confused.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:35 am to upgrayedd
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purchase it via the proper channels
is pretty much the definition of:
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gun control
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:35 am to fouldeliverer
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Or it means that state militias have the right.
Lolololol.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:35 am to fouldeliverer
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The NRA and many Republican Congressmen opposed a bill a couple weeks ago that would deny people on the no-fly list from buying guns. Interesting huh? Sure a determined person could obtain guns illegally. I can't comprehend why people are adamantly opposed to simple gun control measures such as closing the gun show loophole or not allowing terror suspects from purchasing weapons. It boggles my mind.
We're they on the no-fly list?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:36 am to terd ferguson
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How many states still have militias?
Not to be nitpicky (I agree with you that some militias have faded), but I believe state national guard units are considered militia, so technically all 50 states have active militias.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
It appears when you are writing that a gun show loophole doesn't exist you are splitting semantic hairs.
Correct me if I am wrong but federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks. Most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased at gun shows from private individuals. There are private individuals selling guns at these shows, hence the term.
Is any of this incorrect?
Correct me if I am wrong but federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks. Most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased at gun shows from private individuals. There are private individuals selling guns at these shows, hence the term.
Is any of this incorrect?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:36 am to GaryMyMan
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The big one they do in Shreveport right before hunting season every year.
Yikes. Listen... Next time someone tries to sells you a gun without a bg check, run away. Shady shite right there.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:36 am to fouldeliverer
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Or it means that state militias have the right. That is how courts interpreted it for over a hundred years.
This is simply not true.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:37 am to Haughton99
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Any other parts of the Constitution you want to shred while we are at it?
I think you missed his point. He's saying if you're arguing to shred one (right to bear arms), why aren't you favoring the shredding of these others that will do a better job of stopping terrorism?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:37 am to terd ferguson
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purchase it via the proper channels
is pretty much the definition of:
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gun control
Yeah, this guy is showing his arse and it's pretty entertaining.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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you mean how to stop random outliers from doing random acts of outlier behavior? it's impossible
Why do these random outliers and random acts happen more often in the US than any other 1st world county?
I'm not trying for a "gotcha" moment or anything like that, I'm actually genuinely curious as to the answer, or more likely, your opinion of the answer.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:39 am to Haughton99
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Any other parts of the Constitution you want to shred while we are at it?
these aren't my policies
i said these are the best policies
and no, i don't want to shred the constitution. i believe in our liberties. i don't discriminate on our liberties
when you go down the road of promoting the dissolving of one right, you have displayed your willingness to do so to all rights
so logically, if you believe that the solution to this issue is to dissolve our 2nd amendment rights, why stop there? why not get directly at the source and do a better job of enacting policy (via dissolving the power of the 1st amendment)? why teh difference?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:39 am to fouldeliverer
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Correct me if I am wrong but federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks.
That's correct.
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States do not require background checks for firearms purchased from private individuals.
This is correct.
The implication is that all private firearm transactions should be regulated.
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There are private individuals selling guns at these shows, hence the term.
Federal law does not (and should not) treat these transactions differently than selling guns through classified ads or Craig's List.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:40 am to NYNolaguy1
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I believe state national guard units are considered militia
I would disagree. The NG is a reserve component of the U.S. Armed Forces funded and equipped by the federal govt.
Some states have State Guards... I know MS and TX have them but LA does not.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:41 am to fr33manator
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The NRA and many Republican Congressmen opposed a bill a couple weeks ago that would deny people on the no-fly list from buying guns. Interesting huh? Sure a determined person could obtain guns illegally. I can't comprehend why people are adamantly opposed to simple gun control measures such as closing the gun show loophole or not allowing terror suspects from purchasing weapons. It boggles my mind.
So what else was in the bill?
I don't think you understand how these pieces of legislation work. That one particular clause was probably about 2% of the total content of the bill.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:41 am to fouldeliverer
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Correct me if I am wrong but federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks. Most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased at gun shows from private individuals.
gun shows have nothing to do with it. i could sell you a gun and we wouldn't have to do a background check
this happens at gun shows sometimes. the vast majority of sales at guns shows, however, are commercial deals via dealers with FFLs who haev to do full background checks to sell guns, pursuant to state and federal laws.
private sales are private and not as regulated
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:41 am to terd ferguson
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purchase it via the proper channels
is pretty much the definition of:
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gun control
That's my point you fricking idiot. There is control. Background checks are gun control. Regulating automatic weapons is gun control. My first response was to the guy who said "gun control doesn't work."
Now, should gun control (which we have) be expanded? Absolutely.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:43 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:41 am to terd ferguson
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Some states have State Guards... I know MS and TX have them but LA does not.
Louisiana has a State Guard - it is almost all composed of retired guardsmen who are required to retain membership for their technician jobs in the state military department.
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