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re: Father and son arrested after killing catalytic converter thief

Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:22 am to
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:22 am to
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Except you can't take someone's life defending your personal property.

Watch me
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115342 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:23 am to
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If you think material possessions are more important than a human life I don't know what to tell you


If the thief knew his life may be forfeit because of his acts, do you think he'd make the same choice?

There's a reason why shoplifting and petty theft has SKYROCKETED - the non-prosecution/nonsentence or outright bar from arrest for such crimes in a number if jurisdictions.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 5:38 am
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4970 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:30 am to
It’s Cadilac Converter
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:44 am to
There are a few correct answers here on this thread.
You can only shoot if in fear of death or great bodily harm. That is measured by the reasonable man test.

I too caught a white thug breaking into my truck. Caught him with a driveway buzzer. Drew on him with a Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 magnum. He tried bs'ing his way out of it, but eventually took off running. I did not feel like chasing him, so just had to let him go. The S.O. claimed they had units looking,

If many of the opinions and red down arrow checking people i see here are serious, you guys are going to wind up convicted.

This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 5:50 am
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12440 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:47 am to
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The options are
A) file a police report and have them accomplish nothing
B) take it into their own hands and be made examples of by some Soros dem DA

C) Not shoot him while he is driving away
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
5048 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:48 am to
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If you think material possessions are more important than a human life I don't know what to tell you.


The deceased nullified his human life when he began stealing from others. I personally wouldn't have shot him if he was leaving, but I have little remorse for him.

What you are failing to understand is the long game. If thieves were constantly killed in the act, theft would almost cease to exist entirely. That goes for most crime. But let's look at the current alternative. As of now, if your caught you get 3 hots and a cot, and will probably get out extremely early on overcrowding or good behavior.

They are literally walking in and out of San Francisco stores stealing and cops are watching them because of the liberal laws that are put in place there.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12440 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:49 am to
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Watch me go to prison
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14128 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:55 am to
Would he have to jack up a Prius to get under it to steal it?

If so...no shots fired.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:55 am to
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If you think material possessions are more important than a human life I don't know what to tell you.




This goes both ways, why did the thief think the converter was possibly worth his life?

I personally wouldn't go out of my way to kill a thief, but when you go around people's houses or property and commit crimes you're always taking a chance.
Posted by dstarsntigers
Member since Apr 2022
796 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:57 am to
Good riddance
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3845 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:58 am to
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If you think material possessions are more important than a human life I don't know what to tell you.


Tell everyone where you live so we can come get your stuff. And yes, I've had thieves steal my tools that I use to earn money to feed my family. So I am okay with killing these pieces of shite.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49519 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:58 am to
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If you think material possessions are more important than a human life I don't know what to tell you.

that does not have absolute moral clarity.

There are certain things I'd kill a rabid thug for doing that I would not kill a poor down on his luck person for.

There are certain things I'd let anyone steal without feeling the urge to take his life.

There are no absolute moral statements.

There are absolute definitions of laws and consequences. As long as those are applied equally the need to 'take matters in your own hands' is diminished.

When the 'law' becomes just another political weapon used to subjugate political opponents and benefit political supporters, the fundamental concept of 'law' disappears, and people are left to their own moral codes and financial status to make life/death decisions.

We are well into an era defined by the latter.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69081 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:00 am to
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That's when it's believed Pierson got into his own car to leave, but the suspects shot and killed him, causing his car to crash


He was probably headed to the gym for some midnight basketball.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:13 am to
State V Gasser, Jefferson Parish

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Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42326 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:17 am to
They have not heard of unplanned donations?
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19371 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:18 am to
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If you think material possessions are more important than a human life I don't know what to tell you.



They are worth more than the person trying to steal them.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38038 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:18 am to
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If you think material possessions are more important than a human life I don't know what to tell you.



Depends on the human and the material possessions
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:19 am to
They should have shut their mouths and said nothing.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80812 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:20 am to
Not guilty
Posted by DamnGood86
Member since Aug 2019
1291 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:21 am to
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Except you can't take someone's life defending your personal property.

Why not? I have given my life in acquiring my personal property; given up a lifetime to labor and sacrifice. I was up at 5:00am and will toil all day to hold and maintain my hard earned personal property?

Why should someone not expect to give up a lifetime if they attempt to steal from me? Why would anyone expect to take my life's work at no risk to their life?
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