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re: Fatal police shootings could become a crime under proposed California law
Posted on 5/19/19 at 6:43 am to AGreySlate
Posted on 5/19/19 at 6:43 am to AGreySlate
NorCal is a shitehole
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 6:47 am to TigersSEC2010
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They’ll be patrolling the streets with the National Guard once all the cops quit. Nobody who values his or her own life will remain a cop in California while burdened with that bullshite. It could result in a huge windfall of cops to Arizona, Nevada, and Washington, all of whom are in desperate need of cops and have lower cost of living.
Y’all are embarrassing! Ya need to chill on the fantasy stuff.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 6:51 am to Tigerbait357
Ehhhh.....I think there should be harsher penalties for unjustified police shootings but you putting the burden of proof on the accused goes against what is supposed to be great about our justice system. Innocent until proven guilty.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:09 am to Tigerbait357
I don't support this bill at all but I definitely think that officers need better training on how to interact with criminals or citizens who may pose a threat to the safety of the officer or to the public. We should also look to technology that implements effective, non lethal weapons to gain control of citizens that pose a threat.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:16 am to LSUAngelHere1
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I'm far from a child
Mentally you could be 4 or 6 here.
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No, you're clueless if you think someone running away is a real threat just because "it could escalate". Just because something COULD escalate doesn't mean it's ok to shoot to kill.
Of course you fail to understand that what applies to self-defense as a civilian is not the same as what a LEO is subject to. LEO's owe a duty to protect the public at large and if an armed (or believed to be armed) suspect is running away and could present a threat to others, the police do have the duty to stop that suspect. LEO's do not shoot to kill, they shoot to stop the threat. If you had a better educated opinion that distinction wouldn't have to be pointed out to you.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:24 am to Tigerbait357
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shifting the standard from “reasonable” — as defined by the Supreme Court's 1989 Graham v Connor ruling — to “necessary.”
This statement right here tells you this will not hold up in court if it is signed in to law.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:39 am to Tigerbait357
Graham V Connor has been the gold standard taught in law enforcement for two generations. I really don’t see that standard ever being changed. Some stupid California law does not supersede case law from the supreme court.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:44 am to LSUAngelHere1
You are clueless and naive
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:35 am to Wally Sparks
More like say hello to fewer and fewer people becoming police. Say hello to police shortages- like we have here in Baton Rouge
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:53 am to 225bred
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More like say hello to fewer and fewer people becoming police. Say hello to police shortages- like we have here in Baton Rouge
And the ones that will become police being less and less qualified (intelligence and stability, which many would say is already lacking) leading to more overreactions and unfavorable outcomes for all.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:55 am to AGreySlate
This passes, expect Tejas to get even more Libtards from Cali.
They going to turn that state Blue, no matter how long it takes. More Central Americans, More West Coast libtards, gerry mandering, it's coming, country fricked.
They going to turn that state Blue, no matter how long it takes. More Central Americans, More West Coast libtards, gerry mandering, it's coming, country fricked.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:57 am to LSUwag
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Some stupid California law does not supersede case law from the supreme court.
This was my first thought when reading this. They cannot overrule the supreme court ruling just because they're California.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:00 am to efrad
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I don't know if this is the answer but something has to be done. There are way too many questionable deaths.
If you're talking about black on black crime, you're absolutley correct. There are way more questionable and down right criminal acts with them.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:13 am to Tigerbait357
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which would put the onus on officers to justify discharging their weapon, shifting the standard from “reasonable” — as defined by the Supreme Court's 1989 Graham v Connor ruling — to “necessary.” That means that, under the proposed bill, police must feel confident that it is truly necessary to shoot to protect themselves or others from danger, or they could be prosecuted for killing their victim.
About fricking time
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:18 am to Tigerbait357
It is about time! Everytime I go to California a cop just wanders up and shoots me. Usually followed up with a hasty apology or "my bad", but still is pretty irresponsible.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:18 am to bmy
Look, it’s bmy who doesn’t understand how the law works again
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:21 am to Tigerbait357
So stupid. If you so much as charge a cop in a drunken rage you could get it. How is he supposed to know you won’t tackle him and take his gun?
Stop raising assholes, parents. Fight the man in the courtroom.
Stop raising assholes, parents. Fight the man in the courtroom.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:29 am to Tigerbait357
I don't know if this is the answer, but the militarism of police departments does need to be dialed back.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:30 am to cave canem
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just cant gin up any outrage over this part and actually agree with it.
There have been enough bad acts to warrant change
This bill won’t solve any of those “bad acts.” If anything, it’ll only make it worse for the good officers.
Bad shootings were caused by bad cops. All the new rules in the world won’t change them. Those bad apples need to be removed from the force and prevented from ever becoming cops in the first place.
This bill is merely California’s equivalent to SWB’s “hug a thug” bullshite.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:32 am to LSUERDOC
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Agreed. Police need to be checked. They are not the gestapo, but they certainly act like it.
I think police have been given a little too much power. But this is hyperbole and fricking laughably unfounded and off base.
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To the down voting goons, I am sure your stance would change if someone in your family was killed by police and they lied to justify the murder.
With the transparency that police are held to now with all the cameras on them (literally) and people filming them, police are definitely not getting away with murder. I mean police have fricking cameras on their body, along with in their car, with volume. They did that for transparency and to protect themselves from false accusations or to hang themselves if they are found to be guilty.
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Cops signed up for the job and should accept the hazards of the job instead of just "try to get home to muh family."
Do cops not deserve to go home to their families like everybody else?
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:35 am
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