re: Fat Shaming: As a Society We Need to Do it More

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Cutting all fruit is not a major diet modification

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You're mixing up people's arguments. Pecker didn't suggest that, at least in the last few pages.


Regardless. Diet is what is most important for losing weight and maintaining weight loss. It's not even close.

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This board is completely populated by fat people who hide their fatness behind anonymity. If we were forced to used pictures of ourselves in bathing suits as our avatars the fat threads would cease to exist.

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likely, but that just illustrates the point of this thread (i think)...my mother taught me good manners so i would never be purposefully cruel to an overweight person face to face, but that does not mean that obesity should be accepted or celebrated.

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I am neither a fat bastard nor a skinny frick. I weigh 240. I should probably weigh 215-220.

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Are you 6’5” or taller? If not you shouldn’t weigh anywhere near 215-220.

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Did I say they would have the same experience? No. That doesn't mean it doesn't need to be a part of it. Cut it back to 250 calories at the gym 4 days a week.

Cutting out all fruit like y'all were talking about is just a stupid suggestion. That is not a long term solution.

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I think “let’s get morbidly obese people into the gym” is dumb meme. There are stages to this thing that people ignore when they tell landwhales to burn 400 calories at the gym in addition to going cold turkey on junk food and eating clean. You have fatties leaving the gym after doing strenuous exercise (as far as their hearts are concerned) and going home hungry and depleted, and then we tell them to stick to a diet they’ve never been successful at.

Very few people have that ability. It’s why very few people are successful. They need to start with the basics like not drinking sugar and not eating fast food. Then you can get them on a workout plan and a more detailed meal plan when they drop a few pounds and gain confidence. They’re a psychological component that goes ignored by telling them to get their fat asses on a treadmill.

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I think “let’s get morbidly obese people into the gym” is dumb meme. There are stages to this thing that people ignore when they tell landwhales to burn 400 calories at the gym in addition to going cold turkey on junk food and eating clean. You have fatties leaving the gym after doing strenuous exercise (as far as their hearts are concerned) and going home hungry and depleted, and then we tell them to stick to a diet they’ve never been successful at.

Very few people have that ability. It’s why very few people are successful. They need to start with the basics like not drinking sugar and not eating fast food. Then you can get them on a workout plan and a more detailed meal plan when they drop a few pounds and gain confidence.

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Again, this.

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sitting on me and crushing me

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OK LNCHBOX. I'm driving to the coast thursday for Labor day weekend. From Little Rock. Tell me where you are. I will stop in and whip your arse at the Sonic. Or we can find a gym, where i can whip your arse in hoops. You belong to a country club? We can go there and I will frick you up in tennis and/or distance swimming. Let's see how good of shape you're in. If 240 is fat, you should have no problems.

Pay attention fatasses. I'm doing this for all of you.

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it's easier for some to keep weight off and build muscle mass than others.

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It absolutely is. All of this is driven by chemicals in our bodies. We all have these chemicals in different ratios. What we eat affects these chemicals differently. You absolutely had/have friends that can eat more bad things than you can and it doesn’t affect them the same as you. Anyone who boils it down to calories is ignorant.

What you want to do is raise your metabolic rate. You do that is a couple ways:

1. Feed your anabolic hormones. These instruct your body what to do with calories.

2. Avoid foods that lower anabolic hormones.

3, Eat whole foods that are nutrient dense, high fiber/fat/protein and slowly digested. Don’t worry about counting calories for a while. Don’t eat fruit, grains or sugar, but rather a lot of fish, some grass-fed beef and dark chicken, leafy greens (kale, spinach, anything dark green) broccoli, asparagus avacados etc and LOTS of healthy oils (avacado, olive, coconut, algae *my favorite). Healthy fat is your friend. Don’t worry, you’ll get plenty of vitamins, though an organic whole-food multi-vitamin is never a bad idea.

4. Increase your activity - Get a standing desk or if you insist on sitting, buy something for leg exercise that you can do sitting down. Heavy resistance training of large muscle groups (squats is the #1 hormone booster) 2x a week gives big pulses of anabolic hormones. Alternating HIIT resistance traning of of a couple large muscle groups could be completed in less than an hour. Do HIIT cardio 2x a week. It takes 20-25 minutes, so lack of time is not an excuse.

5. Try intermittent fasting and eat all your meals in a 10-hour window at first and work down to an 8-hour window. Eating slower metabolizing food makes this much more manageable. Many people think this is the best way to lose fat. It is one way, though I’m not sure it’s the best way. I know dieticians that put their clients of a high-frequency meal plan (every 2.5 to 3 hours) with fantastic results. Intermittent fasting is very good for your hormones due to far less insulin spikes and is more fool-proof than the frequent eating method, which requires oversight by someone with deep knowledge.

6. Prebiotics and Probiotics. You may have had a gut issue your entire life. Like our hormonal balance, our gut biomes form early and vary greatly from person to person. These bacteria play a huge role in what we absorb and secrete how we metabolize and have a role in regulating many of our systems.

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Your lifestyle would probably be better if you weren't paying their medical bills.

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Ding ding ding

As obesity increases, medical costs increase.

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If 240 is fat

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In what universe is this not fat?

Who the frick redefined all this shite?

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Fat Shaming: As a Society We Need to Do it More

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Gonna have to disagree with your detective work here Lou.

We should be encouraging fatness. When the sun dies, they'll be like plump pigs ready to sustain us until we figure out life without the sun.