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re: Fannie Mae Downgrades Housing, Origination Forecast

Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:23 am to
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:23 am to
And most people I know didn't buy their first house until their very late 30s/early 40s.

I was in the military for 21 years and when you're moving every 3 years, it doesn't make a ton of sense.

When did the American dream outline home ownership as a necessity in your 20s?
Posted by flyAU
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:24 am to
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If you were born in the mid-80's you graduated high school and/or college into a worse recession, higher peak unemployment, and a higher GDP loss than any Gen x'er or boomer ever did.


I graduated college in 02. Served at Outback Steakhouse for a year along side a ga tech engineer grad. My escape was to sell door to door telephone lines to business’s.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:25 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:25 am to
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Most people my age already had to reinvent themselves at least once. Hopefully this next recession isn't too deep. I'm too old to learn new tricks now.


Born in 85. Started as a tradesman, moved into the professional world, and depending on how job interviews go over the next couple of months, I may be back in a trade.

I don't like making job decisions over money primarily, but I'm okay being a mercenary right now. You make more money when you jump ship than if you stay with the same company.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:34 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:26 am to
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I hate this phrase.

It means that many will have to “settle” for a smaller starter home versus a McMansion.


bullshite.

Case in point, here in Louisville by Churchill Downs has some of the highest murder rates in the city. Extremely high crime area.

Longfield was once named by local media as the most dangerous street in the city.

A 2 bed, 1 bath that's less than 1,000 sq feet is selling for $125,000 on Longfield right now.

The median household income in the city is right at $54k.

Stop it.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:26 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:28 am to
quote:

And most people I know didn't buy their first house until their very late 30s/early 40s.

I was in the military for 21 years and when you're moving every 3 years, it doesn't make a ton of sense.

When did the American dream outline home ownership as a necessity in your 20s?


My parents bought their first and only home in their early 20s.

My grandparents bought their first and only home in their late teens.

My Aunt and Uncle, who were buying in the early 1990s, bought their first home in their early 20s.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:29 am to
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I graduated college in 02. Served at Outback Steakhouse for a year along side a ga tech engineer grad.




Buddy of mine graduated from LSU in 2008 - electrical engineering. Took him a full 5 years to get a non-shitty job.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:29 am to
Ok? That is fantastic but not a necessity and not owning a home in your 20s doesn't mean that the American dream is dead.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:30 am to
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Ok? That is fantastic but not a necessity and not owning a home in your 20s doesn't mean that the American dream is dead.


Home ownership is a cornerstone of the American dream. Full stop.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:31 am to
Instead of owning homes, I started 2 small businesses. One was a commercial lawn service only servicing government contracts and the other was Paintless Dent Repair.

Sold them both a few years ago. Sweat equity, brother.

This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:37 am
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:32 am to
I managed to make something of myself after almost flunking out of college. I moved for cheaper housing prices, but I'm still scared we will overpay by 100k+ on a house.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36644 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:32 am to
quote:

And most people I know didn't buy their first house until their very late 30s/early 40s.

I was in the military for 21 years and when you're moving every 3 years, it doesn't make a ton of sense.

When did the American dream outline home ownership as a necessity in your 20s?


Swing and a miss again.

My dad bought his first home when he was 21, paid it off within a few years. High school grad.

He was able to put more money away because he owned his own house at such a young age.

Millennials haven't had that kind of privilege.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4638 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:34 am to
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Fannie is trying to put pressure on the Fed to slow down. JP Morgan's CEO had a similar message yesterday.


Exactly. Hopefully the Fed sticks to its guns.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36733 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:34 am to
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Instead of owning homes, I started 2 small businesses. One was a commercial lawn service only servicing government contracts and the other was Painters Dent Repair.
Sold them both a few years ago. Sweat equity, brother.


if you are in the service for 20 years, you have a nice pension to live off of

Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:34 am to
I have busted my arse all through my 20s and now early 30s. I have a gf I will probably get engaged with in the next 8 months or so, and housing is my number one issue. We are about 3k from the top 5 percent of household earners in Charlotte, yet still will have some issues buying a house that has what we want and with land. That's fricking insane.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:35 am to
Love that gif - really shows Adi's human side
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36644 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:36 am to
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We are about 3k from the top 5 percent of household earners in Charlotte


So you need to offer $25k more than asking price, and you don't have time for an inspecti - oops, Blackrock just bought the whole neighborhood.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:38 am to
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if you are in the service for 20 years, you have a nice pension to live off of


Assuming you are in good health, you could have done the same. My pension pales in comparison to my investments made through sweat equity.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4935 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:39 am to
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Quit trying to live in trendy areas.


I could've sold my standard 2400sf home in Bogalusa for 355 a few weeks ago.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50419 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:41 am to
Those of us paying attention the last 20 years knew this was going to happen. All part of the plan.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14936 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:42 am to
Yea that is a likely good move.

I’m bouncing around the idea of selling now while value has peaked, house is worth almost double what we paid for it.

I’d sell off the house and consider getting a rv and working remote from anywhere and then once the market has crashed completely returning and buying on the cheap from the crash.
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