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re: Family releases video of son dying in police custody *GRAPHIC & NSFW*
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:56 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:56 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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I for one am ok with tax payers not having to pay the bill to house a addict at a special facility and provide him with expensive meds to keep him from dying from his self inflicted health crisis
So death- right? I hear in China they send a bill for the bullet they used in inmate's executions to the family of the inmate. I imagine you're cool with that too.
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:56 pm to Topwater Trout
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there was neglect on both sides
Are you saying he deserved to die?
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When it comes to feeling sad over a deadbeat addict you're right...I will save my compassion for people more deserving
Yes this guy had an addiction. But you're ignoring the fact he had gone to a doctor to get help to shake the addiction. It was not the illegal drugs that killed him. It was withdrawals from the prescribed drugs from his doctor that killed him. What part of this are you not understanding?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:58 pm to Darth_Vader
There are some seriously sick minded pieces of shite in this thread. I hope one day when you need someone to show you compassion you get just about as much as you've given. fricking trash
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unfortunately lots of Louisiana folks living in a bubble feel like this. The greatest prison state in the world.
wtf...you live in fricking alaska. Quit acting like you are more in touch with reality than people in Louisiana.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:58 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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That sure is a whole lot of hoops to jump through just to babysit a grown arse man
But providing 3 meals a day, medical/dental/vision care, and climate controlled shelter for murderers, rapists, pedophiles for decades is okay?
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:59 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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The "frick him, he was a shithead" attitude is very disturbing.
Right. Taking away a man's freedom for such a minor thing, then glossing over the neglect.
Unfortunately these old attitudes are still very prevalent in some areas.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not having the money to pay the $772 fine, a judge ordered him to jail for 30 days.
How fricked up.
We are returning to the Victorian era debtors' prisons.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:02 pm to Topwater Trout
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When it comes to feeling sad over a deadbeat addict you're right...I will save my compassion for people more deserving
I just don't think this has anything to do with compassion. I feel no compassion for the guy either. I concede that paying the ticket and not being an addict would have prevented this entire situation. However, the guy deserves some credit for already being on the path to recovery.
Once they arrest him (like any other criminal) he becomes the responsibility and liability of the state. You cannot possibly watch that video and not cringe. They neglected this dude completely, probably knowing that they were letting him die a slow and painful death.
I agree 100% with Darth.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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wtf...you live in fricking alaska. Quit acting like you are more in touch with reality than people in Louisiana.
Damn, that hit a nerve.
We're about average in per capita prison rates. Also have rather progressive drug sentencing programs in some cities.
Louisiana leads the world in per capita prison population.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I guess the 8th amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America really doesn't matter to some here.
I'd say sitting on your fat arse doing nothing while watching a naked man hallucinate and convulse for days until he dies is pretty damn cruel and usual.
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Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
I'd say sitting on your fat arse doing nothing while watching a naked man hallucinate and convulse for days until he dies is pretty damn cruel and usual.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:05 pm to Darth_Vader
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I'd say sitting on your fat arse doing nothing while watching a naked man hallucinate and convulse for days until he dies is pretty damn cruel and usual.
Same here. But I suppose different people have different values. Some value life, others don't give a shite.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Taking away a man's freedom for such a minor thing
It's not a easy thing. I work in LE and there is nothing I enjoy about taking away someone's freedom, but we have law in this country for a reason.
I can almost promise that after this 30 day sentence the fine would be thrown out. After three years and probably multiple attempts to get the man to pay, enough was enough and the judge order him to 30 days in jail. It sucks but it happens.
The Correctional officers in this case didn't do their job I can agree to that. I will not sit her and blame the man for dying. It's a tragic and unnecessary thing to have happened.
But as I have asked before, was his medical condition known to the staff at the jail. Did his family come up there with medication and prescription in hand and the staff just flat refuse to give him his meds, or was there a break down in communication and the staff was never aware of his prescriptions.
But I do agree at some point the staff HAS TO take it upon themselves to see if this individual needs medical attention.
the jail staff failed this man and i'm sure heads will role because of it.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Same here. But I suppose different people have different values. Some value life, others don't give a shite
Well he was a junkie that owed $750 in parking fines. Probably just should have taken him behind the courthouse and put a bullet in the back of his head.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We're about average in per capita prison rates
so average falls between 15th and 37th for your argument?
I would say Alaska is on the higher end...especially considering how you wanted to trash Louisiana as the prison state.
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Louisiana leads the world in per capita prison population.
be much better off letting criminals go free though right?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:09 pm to redneck
You seem like a great person. Holy shite.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:09 pm to 68wDoc68w
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I can almost promise that after this 30 day sentence the fine would be thrown out.
I'd say a mans freedom is worth more than $750 for 30 days.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:10 pm to Darth_Vader
$772 dollar fine?
30 days of jail over an unpaid traffic ticket?
wow
30 days of jail over an unpaid traffic ticket?
wow
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'd say a mans freedom is worth more than $750 for 30 days
you seem leave out that was over a multiple year time frame. ( in which im sure he was notified multiple times)
Ok so ill ask you then what would have been fair in this case?
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:12 pm to 68wDoc68w
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But as I have asked before, was his medical condition known to the staff at the jail.
This has been answered multiple times in this thread.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:13 pm to NYNolaguy1
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So death- right? I hear in China they send a bill for the bullet they used in inmate's executions to the family of the inmate. I imagine you're cool with that too.
I don't see this as the same. To use this analogy you would have to believe the jail staff intentionally didn't give him the meds wanting to kill him.
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