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re: Family releases video of son dying in police custody *GRAPHIC & NSFW*
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:47 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:47 pm to Darth_Vader
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Step 1. This guy had prescriptions from a doctor for three drugs to help him break his addiction. The jailers did not let him have the drugs his doctor prescribed him. Step 2. A medical professional evaluated him and told the jailers he needed to be put in detox. Instead the jailers put him in a jail cell. That's not very many steps.
No, step one is when he decided to become an addict. That's a choice he made that also made him vulnerable.
second step was considering his vulnerability he still made life choices that put his well being in the hands of others. Others who are jailers. people with highschool educations that barely make above minimum wage.
Again, im not saying there is no fault on the jail. The ball was dropped by multiple people that should have guy the guy his meds or placed him in a facility that could handle his needs. I for one am ok with tax payers not having to pay the bill to house a addict at a special facility and provide him with expensive meds to keep him from dying from his self inflicted health crisis
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Taking a mans freedom from him for a $750 ticket?
what should they have done? just said "hey man pay that ticket or we are going to do nothing the next time we catch you"?
ETA- he took his own freedom away
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:48 pm to redneck
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a friend of mine wasn't allowed his medications for a terminal illness (that he was born with, not an addiction) when he went to the pen for a couple days. Jailers are not pharmacists
There's normally a nurse who gives prescribed medication.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What do you think happens in China and Russia if you don't pay a fine?
I'm not sure but I'm guessing they don't say "Oh well, screw it, let him go."
I would think the people there would be too scared to try not paying.
I'm not sure but I'm guessing they don't say "Oh well, screw it, let him go."
I would think the people there would be too scared to try not paying.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:49 pm to Darth_Vader
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This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:49 pm to Topwater Trout
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Yeh because he had no responsibility in his own death or situation right?
He had responsibility to the state for either paying his fine or going to jail. The state had the responsibility for looking after his welfare while in jail. The state neglected its responsibility and let this man die a needless death. If you can't see that, then there's no helping you.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:49 pm to HVAU
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I'd love to hang out in the Ivory Towers some of you ballers live in.
Is that the name of the trailer park all these bootlickers live in? Probably too much incest for my taste.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:50 pm to Topwater Trout
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ETA- he took his own freedom away
That's convenient.
What's the line?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:51 pm to Darth_Vader
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This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:51 pm to Topwater Trout
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what should they have done? just said "hey man pay that ticket or we are going to do nothing the next time we catch you"?
1. put him in jail for not paying the fine.
2. quickly realize he was suffering from Acute Withdrawal
3. send him to a court-mandated rehab facility and clean him up
4. put him on work release for $.30/hour and monitored for sobriety after every shift before sleeping at facility
5. when he works off $750 and successfully completes rehab, release him to custody of parents(they can do this) to continue periodic monitoring of sobriety.
That's what should have happened.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:52 pm to 68wDoc68w
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what the fine or the fact that a judge put the man in jail
Lots of people go to jail for traffic citations. They are the ones that continue to drive after getting tickets and they don't pay the tickets. People complain about them not going to jail and then they complain about them going to jail. Sometimes the only way to get somebody off the road is to take them to jail.
This is still a major screw up on the jails part.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:52 pm to Paddyshack
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Are we or are we not a civilized society?
Hell no. There's nothing civilized about our system. It centers around retribution. That's why the OT Inquisition is saying this kid didn't matter- far before he got into jail. How can you blame a system that took another parasite off the street? In their eyes it did exactly what it was supposed to do. How they did it doesn't matter, and it won't until it affects them.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:52 pm to Darth_Vader
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The state neglected its responsibility and let this man die a needless death.
there was neglect on both sides
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If you can't see that, then there's no helping you.
When it comes to feeling sad over a deadbeat addict you're right...I will save my compassion for people more deserving
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:52 pm to HVAU
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This kid's situation is sad. Poor, addicted kid suffers miserably while in custody finally dying a painful death.
Got enough sympathy grabbers in there? I mean cmon. The kid didn't deserve to die, but you're intentionally trying to appeal to people's sense of emotion rather than logic.
Sounds just like the people who were outraged after trayvon....just a poor little boy, never did no wrong, etc.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There's normally a nurse who gives prescribed medication
Yes, but there must a prescription from a doctor. The nurse cannot write one.
when you are sent to JAIL you go through medical screening. At that point you tell the staff what medications you are prescribed. When in JAIL, some facilities will allow family members to bring medications with the written prescription to the JAIL in order for the inmate to take. I'm not sure what happened at this facility, because I find it hard to believe that the staff just completely refuse to give him his meds ( if he let know that he was prescribed at that stuff)
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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When it comes to feeling sad over a deadbeat addict you're right...I will save my compassion for people more deserving
Wow. Unfortunately lots of Louisiana folks living in a bubble feel like this. The greatest prison state in the world.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:54 pm to The Pirate King
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This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:55 pm to Darth_Vader
Holy shite! reading some of the response from the people in this thread make my blood boil.
The fact he was a junkie doesn't negate the fact while in police custody they are ultimately responsible for his well being period. They neglected this man while he was in need and that is tragic. A lot of stupid on this board
The fact he was a junkie doesn't negate the fact while in police custody they are ultimately responsible for his well being period. They neglected this man while he was in need and that is tragic. A lot of stupid on this board
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:55 pm to mikelbr
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1. put him in jail for not paying the fine. 2. quickly realize he was suffering from Acute Withdrawal 3. send him to a court-mandated rehab facility and clean him up 4. put him on work release for $.30/hour and monitored for sobriety after every shift before sleeping at facility 5. when he works off $750 and successfully completes rehab, release him to custody of parents(they can do this) to continue periodic monitoring of sobriety.
That sure is a whole lot of hoops to jump through just to babysit a grown arse man
Not saying it shouldn't be done but its a damn shame it is that way
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 2:58 pm
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