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re: Facebook is listening to your conversations

Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:27 pm to
Even if you give them access to your microphone, it is suspended after 30 seconds of the app going into the background. The OS restricts access unless the app specifically requests access in it's UIBackgroundModes key, which Facebook 100% does not do. It is not a recommendation, it's a restriction by the operating system.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:28 pm to
I've had this happen. Said something about a certain type of sound mixer and I got an ad for it on fb. Thing is I've never said those words before nor am I into sound mixing. Never searched for such a thing either on any device. Pretty freaky.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144681 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

Listening (locally), not recording.



you are probably correct. you seem to be much more knowledgeable than I am in regards to the technology.

but to me, the potential for abuse seems inevitable.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:32 pm to
Confirmation bias can be freaky
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

but to me, the potential for abuse seems inevitable.
completely agree, which is why I gladly share this info right now as a developer. It's totally possible this method is abused in the future, I just know currently, Facebook is not using it.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144681 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:38 pm to
As a caveat to the potential for abuse, eavesdropping technology also has the potential to do great things.

Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:40 pm to
Which is what sucks. I love this tech
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144681 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:47 pm to
I remember watching that TV show "Person of Interest" and wondering how many years it would take for that type of AI to be feasible.

I realize now, I should have been thinking more in terms of months.

The NSA no longer needs to spy on people. It only needs to spy on Facebook, Google, Apple, and Amazon.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49100 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:59 pm to
Google has been doing it on Android phones for several years.
My personal example 3 years ago happened when watching a Netflix movie. I Googled to see what movies the actor was in and it autofilled the motherfricker for me with his name. I said out loud "what in the frick just happened?"
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 10:00 pm
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37017 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:08 pm to
So they talked about cats and two days later got an ad for cat food on fb?

Omgonoz!
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35542 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:15 pm to
Several years ago I started studying the concept of information inflation. I think that's the best way to fight this shite. Mix in some misdirection, all in some automated fashion.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:09 pm to
My GF and I were talking about what kind of engagement ring she was going to want yesterday and later that day ads for vintage engagement rings started showing up on my phone. We've settled on a 1920s ring that's actually much less than I figured I would spend.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27949 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

Amazon for sure listens,
yes they do. I drilled a hole in a board in my shop and ads for drill bits starting showing up on a old computer I have in the shop,,,,I never said one word just the sound of the drill.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:31 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:38 am to
The other day, me and my wife were talking about extinct animals and she brought up an obscure one. She went to Google something and the animals name was came up.

Scary. We've since tested it and confirm Google is always listening.
But I can deal with that.
Redirect ads I can't. "Cough"
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18466 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:06 am to
Pro tip: just change your language preference to Hindi on you browser and google won’t understand a thing you are saying.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:21 am to
This is certainly true. My wife and I were discussing my oldest daughter and how she might need a probiotic and an hour later she got suggested ads for them, never searched anything manually before.
Posted by MGP
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
377 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:28 am to
Luckily I have no one to talk to
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77716 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:34 am to
quote:

That means we are all going to be bombarded with testicle donation ads tomorrow.


That is just nuts...
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:06 am to
This has been known for years.
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