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re: F. King Alexander is responsible for LSU holistic requirements and more minority students

Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:08 pm to
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doesn't matter who started holistic / test optional admittance. The fact that it is still allowed to continue is the problem.
Honestly, what is the true correct answer for what is “right” for a publicly funded state university

When my dad went to LSU there was zero entrance qualifications besides a high school diploma. GPA and test scores weren’t used at all

Ole Miss is basically still at that level.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:10 pm to
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But since you posted it, you’re saying you believe that this is the most intelligent freshman class in the history of LSU (in the ACT era)?
Yes

I would bet that’s true for just about every single SEC school too

It used to be far far far easier to get into all state public schools.
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:10 pm to
You’re hilarious.

Used to be easier? When? Like right before testing became optional?

You think we have a lot of bright people just deciding not to take the ACT?

Nothing about what you’re saying makes sense. You suck, always.
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 3:13 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:11 pm to
What in the hell makes you think the average college scores at any sec school is getting lower?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39087 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:13 pm to
All the crap at U-High happened on Tate’s watch though.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:14 pm to
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You’re hilarious. Used to be easier? When? Like right before testing became optional? You think we have a lot of bright people just deciding not to take the ACT? Nothing about what you’re saying makes sense. You suck, always.
The average college applicant is so much better than ever before due to the increase in people going to college. Does holistic entrance allow some really bad applicants in? Of course. But the average student at lsu and top end student at lsu (and every sec school) is rising so much the average scores are at an all time high just about everywhere
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28885 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:21 pm to
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the current incoming class at lsu has the highest ever ACT scores for lsu freshman….. But Tate rabble rabble


Uh huh. Tests have been manipulated for decades to achieve desired results.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:22 pm to
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The average college applicant is so much better than ever before due to the increase in people going to college.


Please explain the mechanism by which more people going to college makes the average college applicant smarter.

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56543 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:22 pm to
What did King Alexander do to you?

Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Uh huh. Tests have been manipulated for decades to achieve desired results


Not to mention this “super score” bullshite they’re doing now.
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5647 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Ole Miss is basically still at that level.


And Ole Miss has a known reputation of accepting anyone.

Does LSU have some really smart kids attending this fall? Absolutely, probably some of the smartest kids ever to attend. However, you can't simply ignore all of the test optional / holistic applicants. Those kids affect your average.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2250 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:38 pm to
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the current incoming class at lsu has the highest ever ACT scores for lsu freshman


Would y’all shut up with this stupid talking point? My God.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45548 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:39 pm to
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How people are attributing this to Tate is wild



You know the reason.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53371 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:39 pm to
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They probably have been getting financial aid at grossly higher levels than actual students, too?



WTF? Isnt everyone there an “actual” student?

Also in that thread… LSU is never going to be 80% white again. Our state university should reflect the demographics of our state
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
6553 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:40 pm to
He was a real frick up
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53371 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:43 pm to
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doubt professors in 2000, 3000, 4000 level classes give a shite if you fail and could be coerced to pass you.


If you’re getting to those classes you generally have your shite together and aren’t a failing student
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5647 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Honestly, what is the true correct answer for what is “right” for a publicly funded state university


As the flagship school of the state, LSU should have higher standards for entry than all of the other directional schools. If you don't meet the standards, you go to one of the directional schools. Luckily, Louisiana has more 4 year directional universities than it needs.



Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2250 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:47 pm to
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What in the hell makes you think the average college scores at any sec school is getting lower?




Average national ACT score has dropped for 7 straight years but LSU’s somehow gets higher each year. What a wild coincidence for a test optional school.
Posted by Fat Harry
70115
Member since Mar 2005
2353 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:47 pm to
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As the flagship school of the state


Tulane is the academic flagship of the state.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
18919 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 3:54 pm to
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Roughly 43% of college applicants submitted SAT or ACT scores in the 2022-23 academic year, according to Common App data, a significant decrease from the pre-pandemic rate of about 74%. This trend is driven by the widespread adoption of test-optional policies, with only a small percentage of institutions still requiring scores for admission.



But......

quote:

Louisiana State University SAT -14% ACT- 86% ACT Composite Score 24-29


https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse-new/percent-submitting-sat-act-scores/

quote:

Tulane University of Louisiana SAT-14% ACT-31%
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 3:57 pm
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