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re: Extended C8 Corvette discussion: It is being called a sports car market disrupter
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:02 pm to dewster
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:02 pm to dewster
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The 911 Turbo S most closely matches the C8’s performance. That’s a $150,000-$200,000 car.
But no one is buying non-GT 911s for their track performance. 911 buyers value performance, sure, but what sells a 911 over a corvette is the prestige, quality materials, history and fit/finish.
The 911 and corvette appeal to 2 different groups of consumers.
The only Porsche model that might be under threat is the 718.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 12:05 pm
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:05 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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The 911 and corvette appeal to 2 different groups of consumers.
Not anymore.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:05 pm to Clames
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My father called a local large Chevy dealership, asked about allotments and markup on the C8's. These are going to be nearly $100k for those wanting to be the first buyers. Told my dad to wait until at least the second year of production, after the inevitable initial problems are discovered and dealt with and they'll be closer to MSRP.
You dad is doing it wrong. Go join corvetteforum, there are tons of dealers there that only sell at MSRP.
Kerbeck Chevrolet - #1 Corvette Dealer is #1 dealer in the USA and they only sell at MSRP. They sell 100's a month. It's pretty easy to fly up there and pick up your car. They have so much allocation that you should be able to get a car 3-6 months after the first ones hit if you call them now.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:05 pm to weagle99
I think everyone that really follows sports cars knew that.
The C8 offers a ton of performance and technology at a very mid-market price.
Even the base C8 renders a lot of other manufacturers' higher trim offerings obsolete.
I mean, why would you consider a Mustang GT500, or especially, a Supra?
The C8 offers a ton of performance and technology at a very mid-market price.
Even the base C8 renders a lot of other manufacturers' higher trim offerings obsolete.
I mean, why would you consider a Mustang GT500, or especially, a Supra?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:06 pm to weagle99
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With performance that appears to be the same or worse than the C8.
Yeah, magazine racing any two cars is the kind of nonsense Fast & Furious pukes engage in. Until production cars are being tested by folks whose jobs don't depend on GM you can stow the claims.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:07 pm to goofball
I'd imagine most 911 owners could have bought a mid engined high performance car if they wanted one.
The corvette doesn't really add some new, previously unavailable type of car to the mix for new 911 buyers.
The corvette doesn't really add some new, previously unavailable type of car to the mix for new 911 buyers.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:07 pm to TheAlmightySmash
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If you buy a c8 base you're wasting your money. The ZR1 version will 100% appreciate though
I am pretty sure you can say this about any vehicle that most people can actually afford.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:09 pm to N2cars
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I mean, why would you consider a Mustang GT500, or especially, a Supra?
The chatter about the Supra was that it already was a disappointment before the C8.
There’s also a lot more performance headroom with higher end performance models of the Corvette C8 with this new chassis.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:09 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Not so sure about that.
True, there are Porsche guys who wouldn't drive a Vette even if cured cancer, but keep in mind, 911 buyers are old also.
Younger buyers, and guys that want speed, will consider the C8, especially if it has a great quality rep right out of the box.
True, there are Porsche guys who wouldn't drive a Vette even if cured cancer, but keep in mind, 911 buyers are old also.
Younger buyers, and guys that want speed, will consider the C8, especially if it has a great quality rep right out of the box.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:10 pm to N2cars
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I mean, why would you consider a Mustang GT500, or especially, a Supra?
GT500 has an engine, drivetrain, and chassis suitable for a completely different regime than a Corvette. Given your user name this should be obvious. Nobody is cross-shopping Corvettes with Mustangs with foreign exotics. Seems Corvette fanboys are the main culprits of such an argument though.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:12 pm to Clames
$440,000
Even if the reported performance numbers are slightly off, you could buy a C8, put $440,000 of mods into in, and almost assuredly annihilate the Ford GT in every conceivable category. Performance or otherwise.
Even if the reported performance numbers are slightly off, you could buy a C8, put $440,000 of mods into in, and almost assuredly annihilate the Ford GT in every conceivable category. Performance or otherwise.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:12 pm to dewster
A Carrera S, $115k, is more car than 99% of the population could even handle...all car talk immediately goes to 3.1 seconds...who fricking drives like that? The brakes on a Carrera S are brutally effective.
If you can afford a $115k Porsche and a $115k C8 (ZR1?), and it doesn’t live a track...you buy the German rig.
If you can afford a $115k Porsche and a $115k C8 (ZR1?), and it doesn’t live a track...you buy the German rig.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:12 pm to N2cars
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Younger buyers, and guys that want speed, will consider the C8, especially if it has a great quality rep right out of the box.
Yeah, the average new Corvette buyer is over 55 and wants a trophy for their garage next to their golf club hauler.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:13 pm to JohnnyKilroy
As someone considering a 911, my issue is I have to spend a lot more money to get a equivalent level of performance.
I won't argue fit and finish and interior components are superior in a 911; they are.
Better bring that wallet, though.
I won't argue fit and finish and interior components are superior in a 911; they are.
Better bring that wallet, though.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:13 pm to weagle99
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Even if the performance numbers are slightly off, you could buy a C8, put $440,000 of mods into in, and almost assuredly annihilate the Ford GT in every conceivable category. Performance or otherwise.
Except for value and prestige / exclusivity.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:16 pm to Clames
I was 34 when I bought my first new one.
I'll bet money the C8 brings that number down.
Curious how that number compares with 911, etc. Probably very similar.
I'll bet money the C8 brings that number down.
Curious how that number compares with 911, etc. Probably very similar.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:16 pm to weagle99
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Even if the performance numbers are slightly off, you could buy a C8, put $440,000 of mods into in, and almost assuredly annihilate the Ford GT in every conceivable category. Performance or otherwise.
Stupid ricer arguments are stupid. You sink $440,000 into a Corvette you get $40,000 back when you sell it. A new generation GT sold at auction for $1.815 million last year. Ford GTs postively buttfrick Corvettes in that category....
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:22 pm to Clames
The GT500 with the Track Pack is $100K. Helluva value for 760HP, it is an awesome car.
My point being that the mid-level C8 will very likely superior to that for a lot less money.
Not sure what argument your making,
My point being that the mid-level C8 will very likely superior to that for a lot less money.
Not sure what argument your making,
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:23 pm to N2cars
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I'll bet money the C8 brings that number down.
It will, and the lower end model will also force Chevrolet to focus more on lower end Camaros instead of higher priced performance models.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:24 pm to goofball
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The chatter about the Supra was that it already was a disappointment before the C8.
Although I like the car, many people think it isn’t a real Supra since it has so much BMW in it.
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