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athenslife101
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Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
I often think “how cool would it have to been an explorer/adventurer in the past wandering through a little known land.”

Then I realize what a pussy I am in comparison and how I wouldn’t make it like a week.

Some examples of people who put up with horrible shit:

In the 1870s, there was an American expedition to Panama that got lost one mile away from their ship. They got lost for I believe months. When the survivors were finally discovered (I think it was like 3/17 explorers) they all weighed sub 100 pounds and two of the guys died within the year. All the explorers on that expedition had completely eroded their teeth because they were starving and ate unknowingly a very very acidic nut.

Not really an explorer but I just finished reading about a German general in Africa in WWI. He knew his boots were eroding away so he decided he would walk across hundreds of miles of African wilderness mostly barefoot. Even when he did find a pair of boots of a dead Portuguese guy, he had to leave his toes yanking out of the boots. He had so many chigger bites on his feet that he lost several toes I believe.

He also mentioned how his officers would intentionally sleep lying in water because theyd rather be leach infested than eaten by all the mosquitoes.

There was also a worm that was infecting a ton of his men. It would bury into your skin and lay tens of thousands of eggs. And then then, the worms, which could grow up to thirty feet long, would try bury their way out, but they may die in the attempt and rot underneath your skin.

There was the basic fact that if you were an explorer or sailor in the 1600s and 1700s, you were getting scurvy. It was considered a pandemic at the time and millions died from it.

There are lots of more examples out there but point is generally made.

P.S. this is the post I tried to post yesterday but accidentally hit the submit button while still typing the title


jimbeam
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
I think you forgot to add “2020 BLM Activist” to your list. These guys are on the frontlines taking on the US government.


dbeck
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
Don't forget nurses and Walmart cashiers. They're in the trenches just like WWI.


Bushwackers
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
Dude, read about Shackleton and Henry Morgan Stanley. Also early western scouts: hickock, kitt Carson, Cody. You’ll realize how big a pussies society has become.


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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
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He also mentioned how his officers would intentionally sleep lying in water because theyd rather be leach infested than eaten by all the mosquitoes.


In WW2, the soldiers and fliers in North Africa soaked their sleeping bags in gasoline to keep away sand fleas.

As for being pussies, I think you do what you gotta do. We don’t have to do much in our world, certainly not compared to our grandfathers.
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
[quote]Shackleton

^^This.


athenslife101
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
I’ve read about Stanley. Dude was fricking evil.

King Leopold’s Ghosts is one of the most infuriating books ever.


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Colter


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athenslife101
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
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I think you do what you gotta do.


I fully agree with this concept. I just wonder how much of a curve associated with it. Like how much of their prior experiences prepare them for the stuff they had to endure.
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Willie Stroker
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Explorers of the past were tough SOBs

But...
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When the survivors were finally discovered (I think it was like 3/17 explorers) they all weighed sub 100 pounds and two of the guys died within the year.

Were the 82% that died tough? Or the 3 that lived? Were they tough when they died within the year? Maybe it was the one guy... maybe he was the tough one that we can generalize about explorers of the past.
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He also mentioned how his officers would intentionally sleep lying in water because theyd rather be leach infested than eaten by all the mosquitoes.

This seems like a no brainer. People “cured” ailments with leaches back then. I don’t think we ever relied on mosquitoes for good health.
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
I think Kit Carson walked across 100 miles of desert or something like that.


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Willie Stroker
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Dude, read about Shackleton

Died at age the age of 47 complaining of back pain and discomfort.

This thread is more of a monument to what’s called a survivorship fallacy or bias

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Survivorship bias or survival bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, typically because of their lack of visibility. This can lead to false conclusions in several different ways.
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BurningHeart
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Ewww, it's so dirty outside




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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
Check out Astoria by Peter Stark. Great early exploration of the far west story


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athenslife101
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
People still cute stuff with leeches now in hospitals. People 100 years ago still thought they were gross. Still isn’t pleasant of have to burn them off


haikarate
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
Peter Freuchen is the penultimate badass

LINK


Cdawg
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Undaunted Courage: Meriwether Lewis, Thomas Jefferson, and the Opening of the American West - Stephen Ambrose,


lsuson
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Tom Crean, Irish explorer to Antarctica was as a bad ass. Once walked over 35 miles alone across the ice to save a man’s life. I went to his pub in Annascaul, Ireland. There’s some cool memorabilia in there.


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Porter Osborne Jr
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You should seriously read up on Ernest Shackleton, Kit Carson, or the voyage of the whale ship Essex. All great stories of survival.



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LegendInMyMind
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re: Explorers of the past were tough SOBs
Read The River of Doubt about Teddy Roosevelt's expeditions of the Amazon River.


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