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Experts believe 1 in 3 positive infected patients getting negative test result

Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:50 am
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Health ex­perts say they now be­lieve nearly one in three pa­tients who are in­fected are nev­er­the­less get­ting a neg­a­tive test re­sult. They cau­tion that only lim­ited data is avail­able, and their es­ti­mates are based on their own ex­pe­ri­ence in the ab­sence of hard sci­ence.

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That pic­ture is trou­bling, many doc­tors say, as it casts doubt on the re­li­a­bil­ity of a wave of new tests de­vel­oped by man­u­fac­tur­ers, lab com­pa­nies and the U.S. Cen­ters for Dis­ease Con­trol and Pre­ven­tion. Most of these are op­er­at­ing with min­i­mal reg­u­la­tory over­sight and lit­tle time to do ro­bust stud­ies amid a des­per­ate call for wider test­ing.

Posted by Uptowner
The OP
Member since Oct 2019
2030 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:52 am to
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They cau­tion that only lim­ited data is avail­able, and their es­ti­mates are based on their own ex­pe­ri­ence in the ab­sence of hard sci­ence.


So then why are you spreading this around, you fear-mongering POS?
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
8037 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:53 am to
So we should be freaking out even more?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86736 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:54 am to
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So then why are you spreading this around, you fear-mongering POS?


is it fear mongering though?

between all the people that have it and are not getting tested, and those are are getting false negatives, it just means that way more people actually have it and are not getting sick enough for hospitalization, which would just drive all of the bad numbers even lower

Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:55 am to
Well since it’s in the Wall Street journal it’s news dipshit.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78046 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:55 am to
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They cau­tion that only lim­ited data is avail­able, and their es­ti­mates are based on their own ex­pe­ri­ence in the ab­sence of hard sci­ence.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88456 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:56 am to
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it just means that way more people actually have it and are not getting sick enough for hospitalization, which would just drive all of the bad numbers even lower
By the end of this the death rate is gonna be 0.015% and we will wonder why everyone freaked the frick out as badly as they did.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139230 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:57 am to
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Health ex­perts say they now be­lieve nearly one in three pa­tients who are in­fected are nev­er­the­less get­ting a neg­a­tive test re­sult. They cau­tion that only lim­ited data is avail­able, and their es­ti­mates are based on their own ex­pe­ri­ence in the ab­sence of hard sci­ence.

Yet they feel confident to say that we'll have a minimum of 100,000-200,000 deaths. These assholes want to have their cake and eat it too.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41888 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:57 am to
"Experts" who depend on funding believe overstating the risk will increase their future budgets.


//What you really mean
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104482 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:57 am to
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They cau­tion that only lim­ited data is avail­able, and their es­ti­mates are based on their own ex­pe­ri­ence in the ab­sence of hard sci­ence.


Oh, well then, hold the fricking presses.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
8336 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:58 am to
Unpopular, but I agree. It is time to re-open the economy, what that means in regards to social distancing and how we do that, I don't know. But it is time.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139230 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:59 am to
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"Experts" who depend on funding believe overstating the risk will increase their future budgets.


//What you really mean

Yep. Key statement here:
quote:

That pic­ture is trou­bling, many doc­tors say, as it casts doubt on the re­li­a­bil­ity of a wave of new tests de­vel­oped by man­u­fac­tur­ers, lab com­pa­nies and the U.S. Cen­ters for Dis­ease Con­trol and Pre­ven­tion. Most of these are op­er­at­ing with min­i­mal reg­u­la­tory over­sight and lit­tle time to do ro­bust stud­ies amid a des­per­ate call for wider test­ing.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71843 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:59 am to
Weren't some insane number, like 70% of tests provided by WHO to Spain and maybe a few other countries faulty?

I'm convinced 200 million people have or had this thing in the world so far.
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2744 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:59 am to
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based on their own ex­pe­ri­ence in the ab­sence of hard sci­ence.





Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75973 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:01 am to
ehh seems like a fear mongering tactic based on little science and some conjecture. so a 2020 leading headline....
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:01 am to
Flooded the market with tests. Some without even published sensitivity numbers. The sensitivity will be different with each. The major labs are using Thermo Fisher Scientific technology and I just saw they were quadrupling production to 5Mwk but many others are making due with what they have.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62207 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:01 am to
Doc: I’ve seen a lot of people with the virus. I know his test is negative, but he looks like he has the virus to me.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
12017 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:03 am to
Not faulting the OP for the thread, but the WSJ shouldn't be running with word of mouth of health care workers.

Journalism is dead
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18579 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:03 am to
or we should be excited because we actually have more cases thus driving down the death rate.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:05 am to
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By the end of this the death rate is gonna be 0.015% and we will wonder why everyone freaked the frick out as badly as they did.


Currently Orleans Parish sitting at 115 deaths out of a population of 400,000 people. That's already double your estimate - and assumes 100% of the people in the parish have it (0.029%).

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