- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:05 am to RedRifle
quote:
since it’s in the Wall Street journal it’s news
That's not how it works,
quote:
dipshit
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:07 am to DomincDecoco
quote:
WSJ
Trump bashed one of their reporters for running with conjecture at a virus briefing a few days ago.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:07 am
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:07 am to Barstools
Oh that’s right. Too “mainstream media” for you.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:09 am to BRIllini07
quote:you know a death rate is different for different areas because of demographics right? Please tell me you know that.
Currently Orleans Parish sitting at 115 deaths out of a population of 400,000 people. That's already double your estimate - and assumes 100% of the people in the parish have it (0.029%).
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:10 am to Crow Pie
Depends on the test. PCR is 100% unless there is an operator error or a transcription error. The IGM / IGG antibody test will detect immunity (past exposure) or acute disease. It takes the body about 5 days to produce IGM so that could be negative but the antigen is present.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:11 am to RedRifle
quote:
They caution that only limited data is available, and their estimates are based on their own experience in the absence of hard science.
quote:
Well since it’s in the Wall Street journal it’s news dip shite.
Interesting consecutive posts....."absence of science", but "...it is news".
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:16 am to RedRifle
It has already been reported that tests some European countries bought from China had 30% sensitivity rating (70% actually with virus not detected).
The original tests sent out by WHO and probably CDC had to be made using genome mapped by China because they would share actual samples the original 2 strains spreading there.
The study using patients in Wuhan back in Feb and saying tests used were similar to US seems strange considering CDC did their own (but again all started from China's genuine at least I think). Unless it's talking about using real-time reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (rRT-PCR) tests generally.
But article also throws in this with all the 70% stuff
And even though for doctors treating it's probably safest precaution with the boy until another test why wouldn't they get him tested again instead "betting".
That's like the NO healthcare worker that died whose test came back negative. They had them redo test with same sample and sent another sample to a university, and all came back negative.
No one was expecting any tests to be perfect especially in such a short time. After hitting over 1 million results in just over 2 weeks now some want to bitch about oversight after just complaining about CDC oversight slowing down process.
The original tests sent out by WHO and probably CDC had to be made using genome mapped by China because they would share actual samples the original 2 strains spreading there.
The study using patients in Wuhan back in Feb and saying tests used were similar to US seems strange considering CDC did their own (but again all started from China's genuine at least I think). Unless it's talking about using real-time reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (rRT-PCR) tests generally.
But article also throws in this with all the 70% stuff
quote:
The technology that underpins the new coronavirus tests so far available, a genetic method called polymerase chain reaction, typically detects over 90% of positive cases accurately, said Tom Taylor, a professor and former CDC statistician. In less dire circumstances, he said, the CDC would typically do a study to verify the accuracy of such tests, which might take a year.
And even though for doctors treating it's probably safest precaution with the boy until another test why wouldn't they get him tested again instead "betting".
quote:
Last week, a 16-month-old boy in Florida tested positive for the new coronavirus, a lab report shows. A few days later, he tested negative at a second lab.
The chief medical officer at the practice where the tests were ordered is betting that the positive result is the right one.
That's like the NO healthcare worker that died whose test came back negative. They had them redo test with same sample and sent another sample to a university, and all came back negative.
quote:
Country - Institute - Gene targets
China - China CDC - ORF1ab and Nucleoprotein (N)
Germany- Charité - RdRP, E, N
Hong Kong - HKU - ORF1b-nsp14, N
Japan - NIID - Pancorona and multiple targets, Spike protein (Peplomer)
Thailand - National Institute of Health - N
United States - US CDC - Three targets in N gene
France - Pasteur Institute - Two targets in RdRP Detection of virus using PCR tests
No one was expecting any tests to be perfect especially in such a short time. After hitting over 1 million results in just over 2 weeks now some want to bitch about oversight after just complaining about CDC oversight slowing down process.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:23 am to RedRifle
quote:
They caution that only limited data is available, and their estimates are based on their own experience in the absence of hard science.
So at best based on opinion...at worst based on sheer fantasy.
Got it
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:28 am to ell_13
quote:
By the end of this the death rate is gonna be 0.015%
That doesn’t sound very trivial to me if half the people in the country get it and 250K people die.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:31 am to ell_13
quote:
you know a death rate is different for different areas because of demographics right? Please tell me you know that.
Completely aware of that. I was unclear if you intended the denominator to be US Population or Infected Population.
It generally seems like your point is really along the lines of "The death rate of the people I care about is likely to be 0.015%"
But the math is going to include the both the demographics you care about and the ones you don't....like it or not those people are going to end up in the data too.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:56 am to RedRifle
When this thing started and Louisiana received 2000 tests kits, JBE tried clarifying the reason the tested/confirmed/kits numbers didn’t make sense. At the time he said it took 3-4 test kits to confirm a single positive. ...So, it sounds like the quality of testing kits is slowly improving.
Popular
Back to top


1








