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re: Everything you think you know about addiction is wrong

Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:23 pm to
Except your brother/cousin/sister/uncle who has fibromyalgia.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:27 pm to
Intradasting.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:36 pm to
I promise you that any human that shoots heroin three times per day for twenty straight days will be sick as frick on day twenty-one if they don't have any heroin. There really is a huge difference between a crack head and lots of typical opiate addicts. Crack heads want to get really high while most opiate addicts take opioids just to keep from being sick. He raises a good point but it is way more complicated than his simple thought experiment.
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:39 pm to
Agreed
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:39 pm to
Not reading all of that
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Crack heads want to get really high


I wonder why, surely it isn't from the premise laid out in the OP

quote:

opiate addicts take opioids just to keep from being sick


sure, after a while if they have decided they didn't want to do drugs anymore.

Still not disproving what the guy is saying. You're just missing the point.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:45 pm to
I agree much of the issue with addicts is their own boredom and unhappiness in life. Most real addicts have nothing else going on in their lives. Of course not all of them are this way as many successful people also get addicted.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:46 pm to
Can you just not read it then? Don't be an attention whore and let everyone know you are not reading it.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:51 pm to
Thanks for posting, very interesting
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

You go from almost 100 percent overdose when they're isolated to zero percent overdose when they have happy and connected lives.


This is bogus.

Miles Davis had money, music, loads of hot chicks, living a creative, fulfilled life and was still addicted to heroin.

Rush Limbaugh was prescribed opioids for a bad back got hooked and lost his hearing while having millions, loads of fans and plenty of hot action from Codename Jaguar from a Compuserve chat room.

Darryl Strawberry.

Elvis.

People with lots of stuff going on might not get involved in drugs frequently enough to develop a habit but drugs are still addictive.

Who is this Ted Talk jabroni?

This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57424 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

y, everything we are doing to stem the tide of drug addiction is from the wrong angle. So what do we do here in the USA? We continue doing the same thing, beating our head against a wall, fighting the druggies and addicts as if they are the great enemy.
maybe the druggies should get off their arse and be social and happy.


Because thats what your guy is saying. Its their fault not others.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Miles Davis had money, music, loads of hot chicks, living a creative, fulfilled life and was still addicted to heroin.

Rush Limbaugh was prescribed opioids for a bad back got hooked and lost his hearing while having millions, loads of fans and plenty of hot action from Codename Jaguar from a Compuserve chat room.

Darryl Strawberry.

Elvis.


you don't think all these people were trying to fill a void?

also, how about all the people that aren't celebrities that this is actually talking about?
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19173 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

And if what we believe about addiction is right -- those people are exposed to all those chemical hooks -- What should happen? They should become addicts. This has been studied really carefully. It doesn't happen; you will have noticed if your grandmother had a hip replacement, she didn't come out as a junkie.

This is a dumb fricking comparison. First off, tons of people who were injured and given opioids from a doctor DO become junkies.

If they dont, it's probably due to the fact that they were titrated off of the painkillers by a responsible doctor.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted by cajunbuck
R-KANSAS
Member since Sep 2017
997 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:11 pm to
i admit it. I'm addicted to the tickfaw propstop thread.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:12 pm to
I've done my fair share coke in my life and I've never felt an addiction coming on. Probably cause everything is cut up and overpriced these days. I've never fricked with heroine though.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7573 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:34 pm to
That was a damn good read.
Posted by TheGooner
Baton Rouwage
Member since Jul 2016
994 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:43 pm to
I’ve had the diamorphine at a hospital a few times. It is utterly glorious and righteous.

They should probably do something to control that shite.
Posted by Anonymous95
Member since Sep 2014
2074 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

jabroni

Greatly under used term
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11470 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

fulfilled life


You cannot know this.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98071 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:45 pm to
quote:


This is bogus. 

Miles Davis had money, music, loads of hot chicks, living a creative, fulfilled life and was still addicted to heroin. 

Rush Limbaugh was prescribed opioids for a bad back got hooked and lost his hearing while having millions, loads of fans and plenty of hot action from Codename Jaguar from a Compuserve chat room. 

Darryl Strawberry. 

Elvis. 

People with lots of stuff going on might not get involved in drugs frequently enough to develop a habit but drugs are still addictive. 


You're confusing materialism with fulfillment. A lot of wealthy, powerful people lead empty lives.

quote:

How many times have
You heard someone say
If I had his money
I could do things my way

But little they know
That it's so hard to find
One rich man in ten
With a satisfied mind


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