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re: Euro Court of Human Rights: 10 month old baby to be taken off life support
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:22 pm to Dead End
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:22 pm to Dead End
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rick whoever is letting this kid just die
Socialist health-care.
Not to mention Obama's death panels and the Martian sex slaves. We need to lock these people up before they take more of our freedom away!!!
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:26 pm to Swagga
quote:I'd guess they have a universal healthcare system, which as crazy as it sounds, it would actually make sense for the government to have a say as opposed to the parents making every last call.
Can someone explain to me how a court can tell a parent their child has to die?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:27 pm to LucasP
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Not to mention Obama's death panels and the Martian sex slaves. We need to lock these people up before they take more of our freedom away!!!
Where can I get some of those sex slaves? Asking for a friend.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:29 pm to Dead End
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Where can I get some of those sex slaves?
Mars, you can't reed or something?
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:30 pm to LucasP
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Mars, you can't reed or something?
I read good. I just assumed they had a shipping service like Amazon does.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:42 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:There are scenarios where the answer to this question is yes IMO.
Wait....moving heaven and earth to keep their kid alive is irrational?
The frick?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:46 pm to chinhoyang
I read about this yesterday. Our son is almost 10 months old and I wanted to puke after reading this
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:48 pm to chinhoyang
My niece was born with a congenital heart defect that required surgery 3 days after being born. Her heart was the size of a strawberry, and had no "plumbing". Surgery took 14 hours, and required a video call with a surgeon out of Japan, who had performed one of these previously. She survived, and is now a healthy 14 year old. They flew her to a convention to show the European Drs that it is possible to repair the defect, because when children were born with this in Europe, they were sent home to die.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:54 pm to LucasP
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Not to mention Obama's death panels and the Martian sex slaves.
When the right was all up in arms about the Obama death panels I laughed a lot, but this situation pretty much reflects those concerns well.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:59 pm to dbeck
quote:They are
but most people think the government is preventing the parents from paying for treatment.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:59 pm to dbeck
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Fine, but most people think the government is preventing the parents from paying for treatment. Mostly due to a poorly worded headline.
They were initially denied by the U.K. Government to bring their kid to the USA for experiential treatment that was privately funded.
Given that denial and the ultimate death of the child, they're asking them to bring the baby home for his final moments. Paid for via private funds. And they are being denied, once again.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:01 pm to dbeck
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Got a link? I'm not disagreeing but it doesn't say that in the article linked in the OP.
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But the couple, from Bedfont, west London, raised almost £1.4million so they could take their son to America but a series of courts ruled in favour of the British doctors.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:15 pm to chinhoyang
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Euro Court, who is paying for a 10 month old to be on life support , request said 10 month old baby to be taken off life support
This sucks, but no one is saying the parents can't spend their own money. It's sad we have to place $$$ on human life. I hope Jesus comes back one day and heals everyone. Until then, doctors , medical services providers , drug manufacturers, etc , all want to get paid. Period .
ETA: saw the post above, that's fricked up if they have the money , wow, no freedom.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:19 pm to chinhoyang
Haven't read everything, but why are they saying no? If the family has the money and is willing to try it...kid is gonna die anyway. If it doesn't cause debilitating pain, why not try to prolong life?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:22 pm to tider04
quote:If the government is footing the bill, they are going to have a say.
The question at hand is really; who should have the right to make decisions about YOUR life? Or your kid's life? Or your medical treatments? If you think the government has the right to those personal decisions instead of you, then you're giving away something fundamental and essential about true human freedom
Now, as for reports about the $1mil crowdfunding, if the government is still denying that, that becomes a bit fuzzy and questionable.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:23 pm to chinhoyang
I get that the government doesn't want to keep spending money on something they view as hopeless, but if the parents want to bring the kid to the US for experimental treatment and pay for it out of their own pockets, how the frick can they be told no? Is the UK communist now?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:27 pm to tider04
quote:Aren't there some ethical type issues with physicians weaved into there that make this not quite as black and white as you insinuate?
That's not your call. It's not your kid. The kid doesn't belong to you or the government. That would be Bill and his family's decision to make. Medical advancements are happening at breakneck speed. Stuff that is fatal today will be curable in 10 years. If Bill wants to keep his kid alive in hopes of a treatment, more power to him. Keep your nose in your own business.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:30 pm to TigerStripes06
At two months, the Mother realized that there was something wrong with the way her son was growing. His limbs became limp and he wasn't 'eating'. It took a while for diagnosis because the disease is so rare (and neither his Mother's family nor his Father's family were known carriers, though both apparently were.)
The child got sicker. A loss of eyesight, of hearing of the ability to swallow of the ability to breath without being on a ventilator, and a loss of brain functions.
So many people believe that this disease must have a simple solution, but it doesn't. The similar disease is tied to adverse drug reactions tied to HIV treatment and serious liver damage. That's damage to one organ, not to every cell in the poor child's body.
The child got sicker. A loss of eyesight, of hearing of the ability to swallow of the ability to breath without being on a ventilator, and a loss of brain functions.
So many people believe that this disease must have a simple solution, but it doesn't. The similar disease is tied to adverse drug reactions tied to HIV treatment and serious liver damage. That's damage to one organ, not to every cell in the poor child's body.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:37 pm to Scruffy
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Socialized medicine in action.
well surely the parents could just fly the child on a medical transport plane over here to the US for the experimental treatment? Nothing stopping them from that, right?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:39 pm to Mung
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Nothing stopping them from that, right?
Other than the UK Government? Nope.
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