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re: Escalating Floods Putting Mississippi River’s Old River Control Structure at Risk
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:41 am to Bigfishchoupique
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:41 am to Bigfishchoupique
quote:or you can tell us
It tells the whole story and what is going to happen.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:43 am to MrLSU
I didn’t read all of that. I live in mid city br, am I fitna die? Do I have time to pay my respek to Lawrence Bottoms tomorrow?
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:47 am to Uncs
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Highaland road would be new levee. Then would flow to St. Gaberiel and back fill spanish lake and Bayou Manchac. If that happens and Baton Rouge were to get a significant rain water would really have no where to go and the great flood all over again with no where to drain!!!!!! MASSIVE State of Emergency
All you need are 1 or 2 run away barges on the river to come crashing through the trees loaded with gravel and hit the levee and this possibility becomes a reality very very quickly
Or maybe a very, very wet fall, winter, & spring that saturates the ground and levee, then add on top of that the longest high-water flood in the river's history, resulting in enormous stress on the levees.
Just spit balling here.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:53 am to TDsngumbo
Wherever you see cypress trees West of the river is where the water will go.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:59 am to TDsngumbo
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Or maybe a very, very wet fall, winter, & spring that saturates the ground and levee, then add on top of that the longest high-water flood in the river's history, resulting on enormous stress on the levees.
This actually scares me more than the other scenarios. I’m surprised we haven’t seen more sloughing with this rapid rise.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:11 pm to Capt ST
Why doesn't army corps of engineers get out there today and dredge the silt?
Some combination of silt raising the river bottom at the bend and a lot of rain in the lower miss valley and you see the atchafalaya doubling or more and Mississippi flow at new Orleans in half or less.
Some combination of silt raising the river bottom at the bend and a lot of rain in the lower miss valley and you see the atchafalaya doubling or more and Mississippi flow at new Orleans in half or less.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:11 pm to J Murdah
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Doesnt matter, have the high ground
Settle down, Obi Wan.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:13 pm to MrLSU
Morgan City’s walls are sitting with like 1 foot of freeboard as it is
good lord if ORCS fails

Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:17 pm to CelticDog
quote:there is only so much dredging equipment in the world and almost all of it is being used at any given time. The corps can barely keep the mouth of the river open.
Why doesn't army corps of engineers get out there today and dredge the silt?
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:19 pm to CelticDog
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Some combination of silt raising the river bottom at the bend and a lot of rain in the lower miss valley and you see the atchafalaya doubling or more and Mississippi flow at new Orleans in half or less.
So the Mississippi will do what it actually wants to do instead of what we want it to do?
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:20 pm to achenator
Bingo. There would need to be several 30” dredges built specifically for the ORCS system. Not saying it can’t be done but you’re talking several hundred million dollars in the dredge price alone
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:22 pm to SSpaniel
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So the Mississippi will do what it actually wants to do instead of what we want it to do?
You are attributing egoic personhood to the topography. You've been hoodwinked. It's done a lot in documentaries. As if the river has a mind of its own. Nope. "Old man river" is a fable.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:35 pm to Capt ST
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I’m surprised we haven’t seen more sloughing with this rapid rise.
Who knows what we might see when the water goes down.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:38 pm to achenator
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there is only so much dredging equipment in the world and almost all of it is being used at any given time. The corps can barely keep the mouth of the river open.
Is the USACE even authorized to dredge around ORCS?
The USACE can't unzip and take a piss without congressional authorization.
I'm not opposed to this idea, and I think the costs of new dredges and operational cost - while high - would still be significantly less than a collapse of ORCS and river rerouting.
But this is the kind of thing we need to decide today so we can actually do it in 5-10 years.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
It seems that using dredging to remove the sediment isn't an option.
This stuff is fascinating
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He cautioned against dredging or dynamiting the bottom to remove the sediment, since this might destructively alter in the river’s channel, destabilizing the banks and putting increased pressure on the levees.
This stuff is fascinating
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:03 pm to Drunken Crawfish
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This stuff is fascinating
Scary and fascinating
I wish there were a way to filter the sediment before this point. Or at least some of it. I know this is a silly idea, but like a giant mesh filter screen that catches the sediment, and somehow could be scraped clean daily and the sediment moved somewhere else.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:03 pm to Drunken Crawfish
You would have to dredge over 100 miles of river. Look at those bars on Google maps Sattellite view. I wish I would have made my way to the river as a young man and made my career on it. So many exciting possibilities.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:06 pm to Uncs
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that happens and Baton Rouge were to get a significant rain water would really have no where to go
Itd go through the break to the river like it was naturally intended to. With no levee, the 2016 flood would have been a non-event
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:06 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
this thread is nearly more confusing than one of the dumb space threads.
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