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re: EPA to require that cars and trucks achieve an average of 52 mpg average by 2026
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:09 pm to goofball
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:09 pm to goofball
Did a quick search - EPA fuel mileage for a Prius is 50+ MPG highway, a tad higher for city. Other small hybrids fall in this range but they are outliers compared to cars with traditional power trains.
At some point, there are only so many BTU's of energy in a gallon of gas, and a theoretical limit on engine efficiency. Something will have to give - car size, power, etc.
Welcome to the 1970's all over again.
At some point, there are only so many BTU's of energy in a gallon of gas, and a theoretical limit on engine efficiency. Something will have to give - car size, power, etc.
Welcome to the 1970's all over again.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 6:47 pm to Unobtanium
Can someone legitimately explain to me how South Louisiana is supposed to evacuate for a hurricane in an EV? Do we all stop in Jackson, get shot, robbed and charge up for a couple hours and then resume?
Posted on 8/9/21 at 6:48 pm to ELLSSUU
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Can someone legitimately explain to me how South Louisiana is supposed to evacuate for a hurricane in an EV? Do we all stop in Jackson, get shot, robbed and charge up for a couple hours and then resume?
You don't evacuate. You use your prius to power your house.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 7:43 pm to goofball
Only way A Ford will see that is when it’s broke down being towed by a GM
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:31 pm to lsu xman
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shite click bait article.
It’s jalopnick. Been around for a while. Not click bait.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:39 pm to goofball
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So, to recap: These moving targets have been imposed and walked back dramatically with alternating administrations; the numbers they purport to achieve don’t have any basis in reality and manufacturers aren’t meeting them anyway; and today’s buyers are choosing the heavier, thirstier, less-efficient options in every fleet. 52 MPG in five years is a nice dream. If history is any indication, that’s all it will ever be.
A 7 page outrage thread based on virtually nothing. Lmao.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:50 pm to goofball
GM afm systems say hello…Failing regularly and costing people $$$$ in repairs.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:55 pm to goofball
Get ready to pay 100k for a new truck by then
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:57 pm to Unobtanium
quote:it will never happen. They set such a bullshite mark of 52 mpg to force us into electric. It’s completely insane to think 52 average is possible in 5 years time
At some point, there are only so many BTU's of energy in a gallon of gas, and a theoretical limit on engine efficiency. Something will have to give - car size, power, etc.
frick these retards
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:32 pm to goofball
I swear if it was 1960 y'all would be against going to the moon. This is some heavy pandering. It will get pushed/changed after midterms. The auto industry will direct the politicians as they always do. I'd love a F-250 that can get 45mpg. The actual number including stop and go is 36mpg if you read the article.
Nobody thought commercial space trips were going to be a thing now they are booked solid. I ha e no problem incentivizing technological advancements. It's way better than trillions spent on wars and giving passes to Saudi Arabia.
America needs to lead the world in all aspects of capital. That includes infrastructure, and industrial. If we gonna spend trillions let's at least set goals instead of mailing EBT cards.
Nobody thought commercial space trips were going to be a thing now they are booked solid. I ha e no problem incentivizing technological advancements. It's way better than trillions spent on wars and giving passes to Saudi Arabia.
America needs to lead the world in all aspects of capital. That includes infrastructure, and industrial. If we gonna spend trillions let's at least set goals instead of mailing EBT cards.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:38 pm to goofball
Why stop at 52?
Why not some other unrealistic number such as 352?
Why not some other unrealistic number such as 352?
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:42 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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I also drive a Ram 1500
Yeah you are definitely an idiot.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:52 pm to Bullfrog
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You can already anticipate the whining for new taxes since the gas taxes fall as MPG goes up.
Yep. This has already started. The new infrastructure bill has a provision to study the implementation of a mileage tax. Thanks, Buyden.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:15 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:honest question... wtf is the point of that
My car automatically stops its engine when I am at a stoplight or stop sign
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:23 pm to Pelican fan99
Car manufacturers are pulling every trick they can find to up fuel economy - engine shutdown, electric steering, 8,10 speed transmissions, CVT's, variable rate battery charging, plastic body parts, etc. All to get those last hundredths of a gallon in gas mileage.
The tradeoff is more complex cars that cost more to maintain. Of course maintenance cost is not a metric the EPA cares about.
The tradeoff is more complex cars that cost more to maintain. Of course maintenance cost is not a metric the EPA cares about.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:09 am to kywildcatfanone
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You don't evacuate. You use your prius to power your house.
Not sure if serious. Some of the granola crowd probably think this is a legit possibility.
Tell that to someone in Lake Charles who didn’t have power for weeks. Or In several areas where it’s not safe to harbor in place. Power is an inconvenience. Safety isn’t.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 11:12 am
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:12 am to Pelican fan99
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honest question... wtf is the point of that
Help achieve EPA fleet requirements
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