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re: English Assignment regarding wealth disparity

Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Oh do tell. What SHOULD be taught in English?


Reading.
Writing.
Understanding literature.

That wasn't even critical thinking, it was a beginner's lesson in socialist indoctrination.
Posted by Queen
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:11 pm to
If you want your son to answer in an honest way that actually follows the assignment ("defend your position") I'd say...

The question of "too much" implies that there is not enough to go around, that one person having more means someone else must have less. But in a truly capitalistic society, that's not the case. The economy, the stock market, the number of businesses – can grow larger.

That simplified foundation doesn't really address questions that could arise related to someone using their "power" dishonestly or something, but that wasn't the prompt.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:13 pm to
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that's a shitload of millionaires,


The commie in every educator looks at that as a bad thing. I think it's amazing and a testament to everything that's great about America.Anyone can have a great idea, start a business, discover the next great invention or innovation and become a millionaire or billionaire themselves.

But an unfortunate segment of our population wants to get wealthy by simply confiscating it from those who actually take risks, bust their arse, and produce things.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:13 pm to
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they are teaching kids the 50-30-20 rule, where 50% of earnings go to needs, 30% to wants and 20% to savings. Wtf?


If everyone put 20% of their income (after taxes I presume) into savings, that would be a good thing. I don't care if Warren said it. That's good.
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:14 pm to
Dear English Teacher,
You too can become a millionaire if you have a good idea and know how to monetize it. The millionaires and billionaires of today are mostly self-made and have built companies with innovative solutions and products.
But no, you would rather sit here and bitch to a class full of young people with potential, unlike yourself.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Queen


Very good response.

I think I'll have my son read this thread before submitting his post.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:15 pm to
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What grade level is this assignment?


9th grade.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:15 pm to
I'd just reorder how that money gets utilized...the savings part should get put away before the 30% for wants gets spent
Posted by LarryCLE
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:17 pm to
Have your son ask his teacher if he’s willing to donate the majority of his salary to the poor since he undoubtedly makes more than the vast majority of people in the world.
Posted by Neveragain
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:18 pm to
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Funnier still, he's also taking a mandatory personal finance course that uses material from frikkin Pochantas Elizabeth Warren... they are teaching kids the 50-30-20 rule, where 50% of earnings go to needs, 30% to wants and 20% to savings. Wtf?


They should be teaching the Pelosi finance course. Now that's a winner right there!!
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:19 pm to
Relax Obtuse. I was just messing with you.

I would probably agree with you on many things. Wealth in the hands of a very few is one.

Is why Collectivism is so ironic. It sells the idea of anti-rich only to concentrate the majority of wealth into even fewer hands than before. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:20 pm to
If your kid writes an assignment that disagrees with the obviously hamfisted question, make sure to keep a copy so you can argue with the teacher if a poor grade is given without it being earned. I would absolutely love that shite if a teacher gave a bad grade for a pro-wealth argument.

That being said, how pathetic would you have to be as an English teacher to give such obviously biased assignments, just to fuel your own ego?
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:21 pm to
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In American society, success is usually measured by how much wealth a person possesses. While the majority of Americans earn modest incomes and have limited access to wealth, the number of millionaires and billionaires is the United States is growing. By 2025, 28 million Americans will be millionaires in a nation of more than 333 million people. Think about what it means when so much wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few people. Do you think it is possible for a person to have too much money or wealth?

Answer:
When I think of the wealth held by 28 million Americans, and the growing number of millionaires in the United States, I know that capitalism has enabled the growth of wealth in this country like no other place in the world. In fact, people from every other country in the world want to come here.
If it is possible for a person to have too much wealth, they’ll find that out here and not in some socialist pit full of enforced squalor.
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:21 pm to
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By 2025, 28 million Americans will be millionaires in a nation of more than 333 million people.


I would just discuss this amazing feat.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:23 pm to
I was joking around, but the kid could also bring up the fact that purchasing power has decreased significantly over the past 5 years...

ETA: I popped the prompt and this cue into ChatGTP and got this response...

quote:

this was a prompt in a 9th grade English class. Can you write a response that supports capitalism?

quote:

In a capitalist society, wealth is not just a sign of financial success—it is often the result of hard work, innovation, and risk-taking. While it is true that the number of millionaires and billionaires in the United States is growing, this does not mean that wealth is inherently bad or that there is a limit to how much someone “should” have. In fact, capitalism depends on the idea that anyone, regardless of background, can improve their situation by creating value for others. The success of wealthy individuals often fuels the economy by creating jobs, funding new ideas, and supporting industries that improve our quality of life.

When wealth is concentrated, it can be a sign that those individuals have found ways to meet people’s needs better than anyone else. For example, entrepreneurs like Elon Musk or Oprah Winfrey started from modest beginnings but built businesses that serve millions. Their wealth is tied to the value they’ve provided society, not taken from others by force. In capitalism, wealth is not a fixed pie—when someone becomes rich, they often expand opportunities for others rather than take away from them.

Instead of worrying about whether a person can have “too much” wealth, it is more productive to focus on ensuring that everyone has the opportunity to succeed. Capitalism, with its focus on free markets and personal initiative, gives people the freedom to chase their dreams and reap the rewards of their efforts. If someone earns billions by solving problems, creating jobs, and improving life for others, then their wealth is simply a reflection of the impact they’ve made—not a problem that needs to be limited.

This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:23 pm to
Mine are in a charter school and most of this weeks spelling words is stuff like equality, equity, privilege etc. I'm ready to pull them the frick out.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Do you think it is possible for a person to have too much money or wealth?


Also...

Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:25 pm to
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They are all a little different. Maybe you missed my point and what I was responding to.


Nah, I didn't. As I said, only one example wasn't subjective. None of the others have a calibrating metric in which to make a truly educated decision. We as a species have tried. Some really horrible "cures" to those subjective ills have resulted.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:25 pm to
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Mine are in a charter school and most of this weeks spelling words is stuff like equality, equity, privilege etc. I'm ready to pull them the frick out.


That crap is infested just about everywhere... I can't wait til we get to all the climate change crap.

I don't remember "issues of the day" really being a part of my education growing up- maybe I've just forgotten.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:26 pm to
I also want to know from the people who say "that's so bad" what they want done about it.

Do they want to simply take from those who have and give to those who "have not"? If so, how is that "fair" and how does that not create a disincentive to working and creating for the people simply being given wealth stolen from others?

Given that the wealth of many people consists of companies and real estate they own, how are they suggesting that wealth is confiscated? Must I liquidate parts of my company? Sell my home?
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