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re: Employers With Strict Facial Hair Policies

Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by 79
Welp...
Member since Aug 2013
1050 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:34 pm to
What about tattoo's? That seems like the clearer indicator of being unprofessional.

I shave every Sunday night, FWIW.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:36 pm to
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Understandable. No complaints there.


Hmm. Well, I work in O&G. So, as I said earlier. You have no fricking clue what youre talking about.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:36 pm to
Banking
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:40 pm to
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I love it! Keep out the riff raff and the muslims. He's just looking out for the safety of his employees.


So you would rather have a clean shaved person who is lazy as frick than some hard working guy who does a great job, that happens to be a Muslim (in case you haven't heard, there are a lot of good people out there who are Muslim).
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:42 pm to
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Last time I was required to be clean shaven everyday was high school.


Catholic school huh?
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11650 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:42 pm to
are respirators involved in his work, standard or for emergency?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:45 pm to
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are respirators involved in his work, standard or for emergency?




No it is a banking job.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99043 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:48 pm to
My public school made us shave
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112945 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

I haven't been clean shaved in years so no
I was in the same boat, and 6 weeks ago I took a new job. The policy is actually no different than at my previous job so technically I could keep the facial hair.

But looking around at my peers and the guys above me that I'd hope to be in their role 3-5 years down the road, not a single one had any facial hair, so I begrudgingly ditched the facial hair. Bummer.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21815 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:19 pm to
Why do you think so many police officers and military guys grow a beard soon after retirement? Shaving every work day sucks.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108749 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:21 pm to
I'm a grown man with muscles and gray hair...and a gray chinbeard.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12787 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:38 pm to
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If you are good at your job and valuable to the company you will never get fired for having a beard.


Fired for having a beard? No.
Fired for insubordination? Yes.

Unfortunately, if you have a stupid dress code or clean shave policy, you have to enforce it or amend it. If you don't enforce it, it's meaningless. So he can walk in and throw a fit about wanting a beard, but as long as it's policy, he's technically being insubordinate and there's at least an excuse to fire him (not that they would need one in Louisiana since it's an at-will state I think).

So even if good and valuable to the company, he may get canned if for no other reason than to prove that no one is above the company. More than likely they'll amend the policy if he really is invaluable.

On the other hand, is having to shave every morning really that big a deal? I'm asking seriously. Why are there people in here acting like this is some huge travesty? It just doesn't matter to me at all.

The stupid shite at my job like "driving moccasins are inappropriate for work even if they look like penny loafers, but penny loafers are appropriate even if they look like shite" drives me a little nuts because it's disingenuous and the firm I work for prides itself on "culture." But a disingenuous dress code is indicative of a disingenuous culture. Particularly when it is actually made into a massive issue. So it's deeper than "I want to wear driving moccasins" or in the other's case "I want to wear a beard."
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
12438 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:39 pm to
I understand having a professional appearance (job-specific) and all that good stuff. But, this is probably just a power move by the boss to assert control and to do it daily.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

quote:
I haven't been clean shaved in years so no
I was in the same boat, and 6 weeks ago I took a new job. The policy is actually no different than at my previous job so technically I could keep the facial hair.

But looking around at my peers and the guys above me that I'd hope to be in their role 3-5 years down the road, not a single one had any facial hair, so I begrudgingly ditched the facial hair. Bummer.


I'll be changing jobs soon. The hiring manager has facial hair, so I'm pretty sure I'm not shaving my beard.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
19080 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:42 pm to
Nope, I don't play baseball for the Yankees
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

On the other hand, is having to shave every morning really that big a deal? I'm asking seriously. Why are there people in here acting like this is some huge travesty? It just doesn't matter to me at all.



I think I look better with a beard, therefore I'd rather have a beard. It's a personal style choice. My beard doesn't mean that I'm less professional and doesn't affect my work in any way. I don't know a single person who thinks neat facial hair is unprofessional.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18921 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:50 pm to
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Hmm. Well, I work in O&G. So, as I said earlier. You have no fricking clue what youre talking about.


If you work in a sour gas field or other environment that may require a respirator, HSE should be requiring you to shave certain types of facial hair. Facial hair can prevent your respirator from forming a complete seal. This is one of the things that is looked for in a typically required respirator fit test.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38703 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:52 pm to
Common in the restaurant and food services industries.

Worked for a restaurant group that had a "No facial hair in the front of the house" policy and a "Beards of any kind in the kitchen must wear a beard net".

No one in the kitchen wanted to wear that thing, so no beards.

Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:03 pm to
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Banking


There's no real men to be found in banking. Bunch of fricking pussies.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25940 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:10 pm to
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Fired for having a beard? No.
Fired for insubordination? Yes.


Exactly. frick that orwellian corporation and their antfarm mentality.
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