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re: Elon Musk thinks Tesla is victim of sabotage
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:57 am to member12
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:57 am to member12
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It’s no longer a cutting edge start up in an emerging industry. It needs new management.
Keep in mind that Musk doesn't do very much managing for any of his companies. Mostly he comes up with the ideas, sells them to investors, and promotes the hell out of the products.
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:01 am to TH03
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These threads are usually plant and oilfield baws cumming uncontrollably
you sound pissed that they out earn you with their overtime.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:02 am to tigerinthebueche
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you sound pissed that they out earn you with their overtime.
Well they don’t and I don’t have to work OT so.... don’t you have some buttons to press?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:04 am to TH03
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.... don’t you have some buttons to press?
just yours apparently
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:09 am to member12
This guy needs to stop with all the car bullshite and start focusing on creating Westworld.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:12 am to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:16 am to member12
Musk needs an experienced business manager to balance out his aloof visionary thing
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:20 am to Upperdecker
I can’t stand it, I know ya planned it
Batteries explode in all cars I rode
Batteries explode in all cars I rode
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:23 am to TH03
quote:DEM COLLEGE BOYS!!!!
here’s where a bunch of plant baws show their jealously of a billionaire genius.
You forgot about how he's government supported, though it was a loan, which he paid off 10 years ahead of schedule.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:34 am to Upperdecker
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Musk needs an experienced business manager to balance out his aloof visionary thing
FUN FACT: Ebay adopted that model early in their rise when they hired Meg Whitman in 1998. The EBay founders explicitly stated they had no idea how to run a business and Meg had the education and resume to take EBay to the heights that they dreamed.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:37 am to blueboy
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You forgot about how he's government supported, though it was a loan, which he paid off 10 years ahead of schedule.
You know how many people have received business loans from the federal gov't? I find it funny when Musk is attacked for using the same grants that thousands of other Americans have taken advantage of to set up their own businesses.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:51 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:Yes, including and especially the O&G companies whose dicks they suck all day.
You know how many people have received business loans from the federal gov't?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:54 am to blueboy
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You forgot about how he's government supported, though it was a loan, which he paid off 10 years ahead of schedule.
What about all the electric car subsidies that make his luxury car affordable to the 1%ers?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:54 am to member12
It would not surprise me. He is simultaneously taking on the auto industry and the oil industry. Y'all think they are just going to sit back and get fricked?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:55 am to member12
They're on it:
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:55 am to Tigeralum2008
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You know how many people have received business loans from the federal gov't? I find it funny when Musk is attacked for using the same grants that thousands of other Americans have taken advantage of to set up their own businesses.
My problem with it is he paid it back with cash he raised from a grossly overvalued share price.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:03 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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My problem with it is he paid it back with cash he raised from a grossly overvalued share price.
So you don’t like that the share price was higher than you think it should be?
You’re better than this, bruh.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:06 am to fightin tigers
quote:Read that again and tell me what's wrong with your logic.
subsidies that make his luxury car affordable to the 1%ers?
And the new one runs about $40k, so the 1%ers shouldn't care.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:21 am to blueboy
But he's a real life Tony Stark.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:28 am to member12
Maybe, maybe not. There are a lot of people with a lot to gain from Tesla's failure. This is a little different than the rocket explosion; at this point they're claiming the saboteur has already confessed.
Regarding all this "really informed" assessments of Musk; it's obvious most of you haven't spent 5 minutes researching the guy, and most of your info probably comes from seeking alpha or twitter. Is he flawed? Absolutely, but he's no Steve Jobs-type visionary. He's a technical genius/visionary combo, and while it appears he may struggle with macro-scale management, you also have to realize that setting up not one but two highly complex manufacturing companies is scales of magnitude more complicated than a software company like ebay or paypal. It's not so much a failure to execute, his biggest flaw is setting realistic expectations for himself and others. The original Model 3 timeline was beyond aggressive and that's what has led to a lot of the recent criticism.
If you care to spend 60 seconds informing yourself, here's quick take of Musk from one of his SpacEx co-founders.
Personally, he's probably a huge pain in the arse to be around and work for, but I don't understand the hate for a person who is dedicated to improving the country and MANUFACTURING IN AMERICA.
Regarding all this "really informed" assessments of Musk; it's obvious most of you haven't spent 5 minutes researching the guy, and most of your info probably comes from seeking alpha or twitter. Is he flawed? Absolutely, but he's no Steve Jobs-type visionary. He's a technical genius/visionary combo, and while it appears he may struggle with macro-scale management, you also have to realize that setting up not one but two highly complex manufacturing companies is scales of magnitude more complicated than a software company like ebay or paypal. It's not so much a failure to execute, his biggest flaw is setting realistic expectations for himself and others. The original Model 3 timeline was beyond aggressive and that's what has led to a lot of the recent criticism.
If you care to spend 60 seconds informing yourself, here's quick take of Musk from one of his SpacEx co-founders.
Personally, he's probably a huge pain in the arse to be around and work for, but I don't understand the hate for a person who is dedicated to improving the country and MANUFACTURING IN AMERICA.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:45 am
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