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re: Ellen wants to make you think he's all about love, diversity, and inclusion
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:24 pm to ipodking
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:24 pm to ipodking
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Anyone who isn't accepting of gay people in 2017 doesn't deserve to be loved and included.
Accepting and tolerating are two different things, but I agree
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:29 pm to SabiDojo
quote:I mean, yea kinda.
Is every anti-gay stance irrational?
There's really no logic to be anti-gay, if you're not gay, the topic shouldn't be relevant enough for you to feel that need to take a stance IMO, so yea, it's not rational.
Like the poster who mentioned the left hand, I honestly don't view it much different than being anti-left handed and getting up in arms about lefties.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:30 pm to mofungoo
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So, because "homosexual necrophilia been observed in animals" that means it's OK for humans to exhibit evidence of mental illness by practicing deviant behavior?
No.
Because there is a difference between saying something is unacceptable due to cultural mores and something is "against nature," whatever the frick that means.
Try to keep up.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:30 pm to SabiDojo
I more meant that it is illogical, IMO, for any one religion to believe their religion, have the answers to how life began, the after-life, etc. I find that not only illogical but also arrogant.
If there is one thing we've learned, it's that we don't know anything. JMO
If there is one thing we've learned, it's that we don't know anything. JMO
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:37 pm to Napoleon
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Using the bible to cover up racism anti-gay sentiment is wrong. Jesus loved all, the end.
He loved adulterers too. That don't make it right though.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:39 pm to Mr. Hangover
I've been around gay (called queer when I was young) since the earliest days of my life. I've always been nice to them and treated them as equals. FYI, I'm 68. I have to accept the actions of others but I don't have to like it nor think it is right. Afterall, it is considered to be abnormal due to the low numbers of gay per capita.
The one area others have no right to condemn is what people think. THAT is as much the right of people as being gay. Others have rights too and should be just as respective.
Where I draw the line is in the church. I know for a fact that acting on gay tendencies is just as sinful as being a drunkard, murderer, thief, etc. therefore if a person wants to join a Christian church they must turn away from that sin.
The one area others have no right to condemn is what people think. THAT is as much the right of people as being gay. Others have rights too and should be just as respective.
Where I draw the line is in the church. I know for a fact that acting on gay tendencies is just as sinful as being a drunkard, murderer, thief, etc. therefore if a person wants to join a Christian church they must turn away from that sin.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:40 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
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Using the bible to cover up racism anti-gay sentiment is wrong. Jesus loved all, the end.
Yep, he loved them all so much that he damns them for all of eternity if they don't live like he says, or of course if they are really sorry for not living like him, then they can go to heaven.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:42 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
quote:So, what makes it wrong?
He loved adulterers too. That don't make it right though.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:49 pm to shel311
And now I'm getting an ad at the bottom of this thread for the "World's Largest Gay Cruise" dubbed "The Big One" 
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:52 pm to Redbone
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Where I draw the line is in the church. I know for a fact that acting on gay tendencies is just as sinful as being a drunkard, murderer, thief, etc. therefore if a person wants to join a Christian church they must turn away from that sin.
LOL
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:56 pm to Redbone
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I know for a fact that acting on gay tendencies is just as sinful as being a drunkard, murderer, thief, etc.
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:56 pm to Redbone
quote:1. No one is arguing against someone's RIGHT to think anything, no matter how stupid. They're just calling them on their stupid thoughts
The one area others have no right to condemn is what people think. THAT is as much the right of people as being gay. Others have rights too and should be just as respective.
2. Saying people have no right to condemn what others think is kinda contradictory in that you're violating your own premise by saying it.
quote:What exactly do you base that on? Where does it say that being gay is just as sinful as those other things?
Where I draw the line is in the church. I know for a fact that acting on gay tendencies is just as sinful as being a drunkard, murderer, thief, etc. therefore if a person wants to join a Christian church they must turn away from that sin.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:57 pm to Redbone
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Afterall, it is considered to be abnormal due to the low numbers of gay per capita.
Stone cold, bullet proof, reckonin right chere.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:58 pm to shel311
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Is every anti-gay stance irrational?
I mean, yea
Define anti gay? This is where I differ from gay "activists"
I don't think I've ever met a single person unaccepting of gay people. I know some people would find it repulsive.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:00 pm to SabiDojo
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We've allowed changing attitudes to change the idea. A phobia is an irrational fear. Is every anti-gay stance irrational
Good point.
However, you'll probably get a big variance between what most people see as "antigay."
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:01 pm to Redbone
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Where I draw the line is in the church. I know for a fact that acting on gay tendencies is just as sinful as being a drunkard, murderer, thief, etc. therefore if a person wants to join a Christian church they must turn away from that sin.
That sounds like some Salem witch trial talk right there. Nice
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:02 pm to Redbone
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I have to accept the actions of others but I don't have to like it nor think it is right.
Acknowledging the existence of =/= acceptance
Sincere genuine acceptance requires the understanding that it's not wrong.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:03 pm to shel311
quote:Gays are going to hellllll!!!!!!
The old position where they choose which parts of the bible to follow and castigate others for not following those parts, all the while knowingly choosing to not follow other parts.
But I am totally cool to finger that chick at the strip club while on a bachelor party, while my wife is at home.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Yea, I almost replied with that same exact statement as well.
Define anti gay?
Here's the thing, you mentioned repulsive, I certainly find the idea of me having gay sex repulsive, but I find lots of things repulsive that I don't hold against other people for not feeling the same way. Being gay is no different than some dude who likes broccoli...which I find repulsive lol.
quote:Are you from the south? My grandparents and most folks I knew in that age range weren't acceptable, to say the least.
I don't think I've ever met a single person unaccepting of gay people.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:09 pm to shel311
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Are you from the south? My grandparents and most folks I knew in that age range weren't acceptable, to say the least
How are you defining get acceptance? I've got two lesbian cousins from fairly strict homes. The families,aren't thrilled, but they accept what they are.
The issue from the beginning of this thread wasn't about right or wrong, but acceptance. Throwing people off the set or out of the house is a lack of acceptance. Disliking what someone is or identifies with is fairly normal.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:10 pm
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