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re: Ellen wants to make you think he's all about love, diversity, and inclusion
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:57 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:57 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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But if you're loving someone in spite of "X" that you deem wrong, that's not genuine acceptance of X. It's love of that particular person and that's it.
That's faulted logic.. you can definitely accept something for what it is but not agree with it
EX - I accept the fact that robin hood stole from the rich to feed the poor but I don't agree with it because I could never be a thief
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:59 pm
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:58 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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You presume much, old man
you keep posting this so I'll throw you a bone and respond, feel better? You have to respect someone's views for them to actually insult you.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:59 pm to Mr. Hangover
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That's faulted logic.. you can definitely accept something for what it is but not agree with
Correct. He has no understanding of human dynamics
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:59 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Are you a rahtard, Roger, cut youre seemingly very very dense.
The point is there is a limit even to your live and let live standard. Everyone has a limit to their tolerance and acceptance. Some are justifiable; some arent.
The point is there is a limit even to your live and let live standard. Everyone has a limit to their tolerance and acceptance. Some are justifiable; some arent.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:02 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Are you seriously suggesting there is ANY environment that could make you a homosexual?
Depending on the age it strikes you, sure. Many childhood victims of sexual assaults have their sexuality warped once they become older. Environment is more complicated than just southeastern Louisiana.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:03 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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The point is there is a limit even to your live and let live standard. Everyone has a limit to their tolerance and acceptance. Some are justifiable; some arent.
You should be careful trying to pass off your opinion as a fact..
What you are talking about can vary so much between people but you're trying to cement it as something that's the same across the board for every individual person
I'm not even disagreeing with what you said, but you are trying to convey an opinion as a fact and that's where the disconnect is in this conversation IMO
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:04 pm to Mr. Hangover
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I accept the fact that robin hood stole from the rich to feed the poor but I don't agree with it because I could never be a thief
No man. That's acknowledgement (that it indeed happened) and tolerance (permissive attitude toward opinions, beliefs, and practices that differ from one's own).
Theyre better than nothing, but theyre not genuine acceptance.
Theres a difference.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:06 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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No man. That's acknowledgement (that it indeed happened) and tolerance (permissive attitude toward opinions, beliefs, and practices that differ from one's own).
No man, I meant I accepted the fact that his intentions were good - but I'm not gonna go in to semantics here
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:08 pm to Mr. Hangover
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you are trying to convey an opinion as a fact and that's where the disconnect is
Which part?
Everyone has a limit?
or that some limits are justifiable and some aren't?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:12 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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The point is there is a limit even to your live and let live standard. Everyone has a limit to their tolerance and acceptance. Some are justifiable; some arent.
Oh, I totally get you. My ex wife was a polyphony. No matter how hard I fought the natural urge to keep from having relationships with other women, I finally had to be true to nature. She didnt,appreciate it.
And she thought it was objectively wrong. Can you imagine that? Intolerant and close minded to the natural state of man.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:18 pm to Mr. Hangover
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No man, I meant I accepted the fact that his intentions were good - but I'm not gonna go in to semantics here
ah ok. I hear you.
Semantics indeed
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:18 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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Which part
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Everyone has a limit to their tolerance and acceptance. Some are justifiable; some arent.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:18 pm to Mr. Hangover
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You should be careful trying to pass off your opinion as a fact.
He's judging people based on his own values, like the moral majority.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:20 pm to TeddyPadillac
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What is that basic need?
fricking??
Intimacy? Companionship...
To think that a person "decides" to go against all urges, and engage in an activity and lifestyle that makes your life complex, is ridiculous.
At puberty and before you know that girls are no longer icky. You become consumed by seeing boobs for the first time, and later sex. To say it is a choice is to say that you deny every urge you've ever had. Then force yourself to feel same sex urges? Thats alot to ask of a 11-14 year old.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:25 pm to Mr. Hangover
Interesting.
I'm struggling to imagine that there is anyone truly excepting, not just tolerant, of everyone and everything.
Are you thinking someone along the lines of a Mother Theresa or are we at a semantic disjunction again?
I'm struggling to imagine that there is anyone truly excepting, not just tolerant, of everyone and everything.
Are you thinking someone along the lines of a Mother Theresa or are we at a semantic disjunction again?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:25 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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are we at a semantic disjunction again?
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Excepting
Yep
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:26 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
I don't find Ellen as annoying and unfunny as Samantha Bee. So, she has that going for her.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:26 pm to UF
Nobody's talking about Ellen anymore
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:29 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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I'm struggling to imagine that there is anyone truly excepting, not just tolerant, of everyone and everything.
The key is how you define accepting (not excepting) in human relationships and family dynamics. They are very subjective, not black/white.
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