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re: Education vs. Experience
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:40 pm to TheDeathValley
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:40 pm to TheDeathValley
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I have floor workers with 25+ years that blow some of graduates out of the water, even the experienced ones
This thread wreaks of old guy that is still a grunt needing validation. If you've been working for 25 years I would sure hope you're better than a kid coming straight out of college. Education is used as an indicator of future success and potential.
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Exactly. The "experienced" people have a ceiling. They might be better now, but they won't be given the same time.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:44 pm to TheDeathValley
A man with experience is not at the mercy of a man with an opinion (education).
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:47 pm to TheDeathValley
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I have floor workers with 25+ years that blow some of graduates
Sounds like you can't beat experience in your line of work.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:00 pm to TheDeathValley
Experience can take you far in certain lines of work, however, once you hit a certain level you need that degree no matter the experience. One could argue not in smaller businesses, but def. in corporate from what I've found.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:06 pm to TheDeathValley
Liberal arts degree > experience
Posted on 6/13/18 at 6:20 am to TheDeathValley
I would say experience trumps all, but it depends.
Obviously if you are a brain surgeon, you will have education on the matter, but then experience of doing the actual work is so much more important than reading what to do in a book.
But if we are talking about regular jobs where joe blow can come in out of high school and start at the bottom and work his way up within the company, and gain all that experience, and I would say joe blow would be more valuable than a recent college grad with no or very little actual job experience.
Also some people are just stupid and don't' have much common sense and regardless of number of years with job experience or college degrees, doesn't change the fact that they are shitty/bad workers.
Obviously if you are a brain surgeon, you will have education on the matter, but then experience of doing the actual work is so much more important than reading what to do in a book.
But if we are talking about regular jobs where joe blow can come in out of high school and start at the bottom and work his way up within the company, and gain all that experience, and I would say joe blow would be more valuable than a recent college grad with no or very little actual job experience.
Also some people are just stupid and don't' have much common sense and regardless of number of years with job experience or college degrees, doesn't change the fact that they are shitty/bad workers.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 6:29 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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This thread wreaks of old guy that is still a grunt needing validation. If you've been working for 25 years I would sure hope you're better than a kid coming straight out of college. Education is used as an indicator of future success and potential.
I am 28
Posted on 6/13/18 at 6:30 am to TheDeathValley
Depends on the job
Posted on 6/13/18 at 6:55 am to TheDeathValley
Experience IS Education
Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:19 am to TheDeathValley
It's usually job specific. I have a Masters that I don't really use but have been told by several employers that they like that it showed you committed time and money and saw something through.
Especially in younger work years, I think sometimes work experience is overstated. Sometimes, you will cut from an applicant pool just because you don't have the "5+ years in field" qualification. If an applicant is smart and appears that they can learn quickly, I'll take intelligence over experience.
There are some people that have 10+ years experience and are as dumb as rocks, but they've been doing it since high school and never went to college, so they have more "experience" compared to someone who went to college.
Especially in younger work years, I think sometimes work experience is overstated. Sometimes, you will cut from an applicant pool just because you don't have the "5+ years in field" qualification. If an applicant is smart and appears that they can learn quickly, I'll take intelligence over experience.
There are some people that have 10+ years experience and are as dumb as rocks, but they've been doing it since high school and never went to college, so they have more "experience" compared to someone who went to college.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:32 am to TheDeathValley
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I am 28
So you've been working 10 years and have the same job as a 23 year old who's been working 1?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:35 am to TheDeathValley
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Is there a point where the degree doesn’t matter?
Depends on the job.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:36 am to TheDeathValley
Experian is one of the three used.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:40 am to TheDeathValley
Experience is vital, but the degree makes you marketable and promotable, and gets you paid. A combination of the two is best
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:06 am to TheDeathValley
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I have floor workers with 25+ years that blow some of graduates
Takeaway...if you don't get an education, blowing graduates may be in your future.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:15 am to TheDeathValley
A degree, more so a STEM degree, acknowledges the fact that this particular candidate has the will and desire to achieve more and is willing to put in the effort to do so.
College teaches you how to critically think from all perspectives.
Experience at one place teaches you how to critically think from one perspective.
Also, as time goes on, ESPECIALLY in the technical fields, and the old 20-year vet might be less prone to continuous training.
I am the youngest in my lab (32), but for anything related to next-generation technology, everyone comes to me first to explain whats going on. However, on the flip side of things, I look to those old vets for advice on a situation I haven't seen before. It's a symbiotic relationship.
In essence, you need a good mixture of both.
College teaches you how to critically think from all perspectives.
Experience at one place teaches you how to critically think from one perspective.
Also, as time goes on, ESPECIALLY in the technical fields, and the old 20-year vet might be less prone to continuous training.
I am the youngest in my lab (32), but for anything related to next-generation technology, everyone comes to me first to explain whats going on. However, on the flip side of things, I look to those old vets for advice on a situation I haven't seen before. It's a symbiotic relationship.
In essence, you need a good mixture of both.
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