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re: EDIT: Should employees be allowed unpaid leave if their work is covered?
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:02 pm to oleyeller
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:02 pm to oleyeller
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love my state job. Been there 5 years, currently have 52 days of personal time 60 days of sick time and accumulate 14 hrs of personal time a month and 12 hrs of sick time per month that rolls over yearly
And gets paid shite.
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:04 pm to dualed
I just started full time in December where I'm
At. I already have two weeks paid vacation.
At. I already have two weeks paid vacation.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:09 pm to dualed
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A lot of companies make you wait a year before earning vacation, and even after that it could be as little as 40 hours.
Yes, of course they should. Do you think you're going to hold onto good employees if you make them wait that long? If I got a job with one of these companies, it'd clearly be because I was out of work, need to pay the bills, and I'd be out of there within 3 months.
Any company that does this is utterly retarded and greedy. It says point blank to their own employees that they don't give a damn about you. It's just bad practice.
Happy employees are productive employees. Having them wait 6 months to a year in order to get vacations are going to make some very disgruntled and less productive employees who are likely to leave. Once they leave, this in turn makes your company far less productive than you were if you treated them like people and had them stay. And this doesn't even include hiring and training costs once that employee leaves.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:11 pm to dualed
How can you be entitled to something you haven't earned yet?
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:17 pm to Ham Solo
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If I have some one put in for vacation while I am interviewing them they probably won't be getting the job. You have to put your time in first.
Why is this the case? What if you've got a wedding that you have agreed to be a groomsman that's across the country and you need to be there on the Friday a few weeks after you're hired? If I'm a manager, I'd just tell him to go and to not worry about it. This happened to me last year, and I started 2 weeks before one of my best friend's wedding.
Treat your employees like human beings deserving of trust until they betray it and don't get their shite done.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:28 pm to OMLandshark
Company gives 2 weeks at start if you quit within a year you have to pay it back. As long as you make the year it's all good.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:29 pm to dualed
If I'm getting lots of questions from the interviewee regarding vacation and time off, red flags start going up and I'm probably moving on to the next person.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:30 pm to MadDoggyStyle
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If I'm getting lots of questions from the interviewee regarding vacation and time off, red flags start going up and I'm probably moving on to the next person.
What kind of an idiot is going to ask that? I don't start asking PTO questions until I've got the offer in front of me.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:37 pm to dualed
military get's 4 weeks per year
no details tho
no details tho
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:41 pm to MadDoggyStyle
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If I'm getting lots of questions from the interviewee regarding vacation and time off, red flags start going up and I'm probably moving on to the next person.
He could just be genuinely curious.
We are all told during the interview process (let me clarify: not the minute to speak to the people.. you do this when you have the offer and are considering) to not be afraid to ask questions about these things. Just look at Monster, Indeed, etc. They all tell you to get the information you need up front. For all you know, that person is coming from a company who treated them like shite.
Like it or not, vacation/time off is part of your salary. You wouldn't go into a job without knowing the salary, and you shouldn't go into a job without knowing vacation/time off unless you just don't ever want to take off. Someone asking these questions in an interview instead of waiting for the HR packet to be handed to them once they've already quit their job and started with you is smart.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:42 pm to dualed
I always negotiate my vacation time from day 1 when taking a new job
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:44 pm to MadDoggyStyle
Are you in HR?
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:47 pm to dualed
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A lot of companies make you wait a year before earning vacation, and even after that it could be as little as 40 hours. Should people be entitled to vacation prior to that? Should they be allowed to take unpaid leave so long as their work can be made up/their shift can be covered?
I have never worked for a company like that. Probably never will. If a company is hiring me on its because they expect me to provide them with a service. I in turn expect to be compensated for my time. I won't wait to 'prove myself' before getting fully compensated. They either want me or they don't.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:52 pm to MadDoggyStyle
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If I'm getting lots of questions from the interviewee regarding vacation and time off, red flags start going up and I'm probably moving on to the next person.
So, just to be clear, do you inform them of their time off after hiring them? It's a part of their salary and compensation. By telling them after hire you are essentially renogiating their salary.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:58 pm to retired trucker
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military get's 4 weeks per year no details tho
Technically 30 days (2.5 days/month). The caveat to that is you also have to use your "vacation time" on the weekends. For example, if I want off on Friday and Monday, I use 4 days of my 30 for 2 work days off.
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This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:06 pm to willhigg6
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Techically 30 days (2.5 days/month). The caveat to that is you also have to use your "vacation time" on the weekends. For example, if I want off on Friday and Monday, I use 4 days of my 30 for 2 work days off.
Are you salaried? That's a hella lot of overtime.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:07 pm to N2cars
Business owner
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:10 pm to tigerbutt
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love my state job. Been there 5 years, currently have 52 days of personal time 60 days of sick time and accumulate 14 hrs of personal time a month and 12 hrs of sick time per month that rolls over yearly
And gets paid shite.
you have no clue what i make.. nor what i have in life, or if i even have to work. Lets just say life has been good to me 
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:11 pm to NYNolaguy1
Sure, we give generous benefits and good vacation/ holidays. We go over benefits when the offer is made, but my point is that if the interviewee is already asking about those things during the initial interview, I would have concerns.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:11 pm to dualed
Like everything with working, if you are worth it, you deserve it. If you are valuable enough for a company to offer vacation so that you want to work for them, great. If a company can hire any Joe Blow who is willing to do the work and isn't going to request additional benefits, more power to them.
I got 2 weeks right away, and after 5 years now have 3 with an optional unpaid 4th week. I rarely utilize my days until q4 when I realize I'm about to lose them.
I got 2 weeks right away, and after 5 years now have 3 with an optional unpaid 4th week. I rarely utilize my days until q4 when I realize I'm about to lose them.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 7:58 am
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