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re: EBRP Deputy shot on O'Neal lane.

Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:18 am to
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18715 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:18 am to
Working class folks in louisiana are great.

That's all i have to say about that.
This post was edited on 3/19/17 at 10:19 am
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13130 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:19 am to
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So I'm guessing St. George just got a few more votes.
quote:

The deputy's shooting took place in what would be St George.



His point is that the way B. R. has been governed as why we are having these problems. Of course a St. George, even properly governed, will still sit right next to Baton Rouge so will still have some problems. But at least the people committing crime in St. George will be taken off the streets, hopefully.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:19 am to
Lived in TLAWO before St.Jean section 8 apartments were built.
The owner of Jays donuts was very adamant in his fight to keep them out.
All of Shenandoah, White oak landing and TLAWO are now feeling the repercussions of his failed attempt at keeping the section 8 tenants away from the area.
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3922 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:20 am to
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Can someone explain to me why St. George is always brought up in these threads? I don't live in BR so I don't get the reference


It's just the cool thing to say. If it where to happen, it would do nothing to limit the spill over impact of crime in the overall BR area. There has been a recent movement to subdivide BR and created a new city, The town of St. George. The goal is about having control over schools and having a good public school system which is a good thing. However, it would not solve any of these spill over things; crime, traffic etc.

It's sorta like "white flight" without the "flight" part; just the tax dollars leaving BR and being redirected to St George( south Baton Rouge). The previous mayor annexed most major retailers/ sales tax generators into BR city so those retailers have already said they're staying in City of BR. Not paying into proposed St George entity.

I really don't see it as solving the problems often discussed here.

This post was edited on 3/19/17 at 10:30 am
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6299 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:22 am to
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Louisiana has the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world. Literally on planet Earth Louisiana incarcerates more people as a percentage of the population than anywhere else. We can't afford it. I hate the lowlife criminal element as much as anybody but just locking everybody up and throwing away the key isn't a long term solution.


There is no long term solution, especially in places like Baton Rouge, where the minority population and its voting strength is growing. As minorities elect mayors, judges, sheriffs, district attorneys, councilmen, representatives, etc. then the policies that created the problem will expand and worsen the problem. And don't talk about the hard-working honest minorities who are the worst victims, because on election day, 95% of them cast their votes exactly like the felons would if they were allowed at the polls.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6578 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:22 am to
Prairieville and the LP will become bad in time. Their school districts will become hard to mange and the population in flow will create a mix of its own issues.

The only thing that works is aggressive enforcement of zoning and master plans. No whoring out the city to developers who want to turn a cheap buck. Keep areas desirable or moving up. Build crap and crap will follow.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78327 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:23 am to
Working class folks are great in several states. Not exclusive to just one.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:25 am to
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His point is that the way B. R. has been governed as why we are having these problems. Of course a St. George, even properly governed, will still sit right next to Baton Rouge so will still have some problems. But at least the people committing crime in St. George will be taken off the streets, hopefully.

My God, could you St Georgians be more full of shite? Of all times for you to push your bullshite agenda.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:25 am to
Your point carries a lot of validity. One thing that planners and developers love to do in any area that is working class and nice and new, is to stick a low income condo project smack dab in the middle of it. They did it on O'Neal right down the road from where this happened - and the whole area went to shite in about five years. Same thing happened on Siegen. I don't get why they do that. From what I understand, they're doing it in Prairieville now right there on Airline Hwy. It's like they get jealous that an area is nice and want to shake things up.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78327 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:27 am to
That monstrosity of an apartment complex near Manchac and Airline Hwy isn't going to bode well for Prairieville. You're spot on about that.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42608 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:28 am to
Most sales tax generators in the unincorporated area were not annexed into BR. Some of the Mall of La. was annexed, but not all of it. For instance none of the anchor chose BR.

I agree though with your premise, I can't see SG affecting crime. I think a better way would be to eliminate BRPD and give all those resources to the sheriff and let them police the parish. The criminals don't know what is in or the city limits.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6299 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:34 am to
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It's sorta like "white flight" without the "flight" part; just the tax dollars leaving BR and being redirected to St George( south Baton Rouge). The previous mayor annexed most major retailers/ sales tax generators into BR city so those retailers have already said their staying in City of BR. Not paying into proposed St George entity.

I really don't see it as solving the problems often discussed here.


East Baton Rouge parish's free fall is due to demographic changes and their effect on elections and society. St. George will slow white flight and help save the parish from itself. It's that simple. Killing St. George will accelerate the already rapid decline in EBR's quality of life.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:35 am to
The only solution is to go after the Slumlords and Apartment owners, who go to section 8 quickly.

Even in places like Ferguson, you had a lot of middle, lower class blacks in nice, older brick homes, but the city was done in by the owners of apartment complexes section 8'ing their properties to make $$ at the residents costs.

It isn't just the middle class, White areas these shithead Property owners destroy, they destroy the middle class Black/Hispanic areas. Once the trash comes in, their house values plummet, then the choice is stay or flight. Problem is, many cannot afford to flight and are stuck in the area as it goes to hell in a hand basket.



Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15784 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:36 am to
Now is the perfect time to announce that the officers involved in the Alton Sterling shooting will not be prosecuted.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13130 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:40 am to
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My God, could you St Georgians be more full of shite? Of all times for you to push your bullshite agenda


Who said I'm a St. George proponent. I was explaining someone else's views. Reading comprehension, man.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6327 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:41 am to
It's like the CATS tax increase a few years back. Leftist policies are designed to break the backs and spirits of the middle class. We're going to make you pay higher taxes to ship the criminal element into your areas of the city. There's a reason why Cobb County blocked MARTA from crossing the Cobb/Fulton line
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40215 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:42 am to
Lived in TLAWO before St.Jean section 8 apartments were built.
The owner of Jays donuts was very adamant in his fight to keep them out.
All of Shenandoah, White oak landing and TLAWO are now feeling the repercussions of his failed attempt at keeping the section 8 tenants away from the area


This.

St. Jean Apartments are still closed from the flood, but the damages have already been done.

O'Neal Lane is now littered with trash and it doesn't help that a Dollar General was just built next to STJ, along with run down convenience store on corner of O'Neal and Harrells Ferry Road.

Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78327 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:43 am to
I'm surprise that most of the catholic schools in and around Baton Rouge are in declining or already rough area.

St. Jean Vienay
St. Jude
St. Thomas More

Just to name a few
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40215 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:44 am to
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That monstrosity of an apartment complex near Manchac and Airline Hwy isn't going to bode well for Prairieville. You're spot on about that.


Bingo.

This should have been built in NBR. It could have been pushed as revitalizing NBR and investing back in that area.

Prairieville doesn't need any investing. It's doing just fine on its own.

Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6327 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 10:45 am to
That's not sect 8 tho
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