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re: EBR needs to build a bigger prison. I’d vote a tax for that or use of library funds
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:13 am to UptownJoeBrown
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:13 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Raid dedicated parish wide tax funds for this. I would even vote for a new dedicated tax for this.
There’s actually political will on both sides of the aisle on this, at least on the subject of a new prison, though there are arguments about how big it needs to be. But everyone, from the left to the right, from the warden on down, acknowledges that our current prison is long past end of life and needs to be replaced. The only thing holding it up is the belief that the public isn’t willing to fund it, because frick me, is it expensive. If grassroots campaigns among the public start to grow legs, I think you would see movement on it relatively quickly.
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:20 am to Joshjrn
Was there ever a tax proposal for one on the ballot? Say last 20 years
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:25 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Was there ever a tax proposal for one on the ballot? Say last 20 years
No. It gets discussed over and over again, but it always dies at the point people discuss how to fund it. A dedicated millage is always the most reasonable proposal, then it gets abandoned because everyone believes a new tax that large is a political non-starter. Then the subject gets shelved for a few years while we spend money putting bandaids on the current prison until it becomes ridiculous, we start talking new prison again, only to realize projections are now significantly more expensive than last time we discussed it.
Rinse and repeat.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:42 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Thanks for the info.
I’m not in a position to do a deep dive right now, but to my recollection, the last time things got close to a vote was under Kip about a decade ago. A quick search has a host of articles still publicly available. It obviously doesn’t give you the more recent discussions, but I can tell you it’s mostly same song, difference verse.
Eta: But to be clear, I don’t say this to say it’s an insurmountable problem. It’s an area I think a groundswell of constituent support could have an immediate impact. Politicians don’t like to push new taxes unless they know they will pass, otherwise it becomes an election issue. If the general public starts talking about it with a real appetite towards supporting a new tax, I think it would matter.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 9:45 am
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:00 am to UptownJoeBrown
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EBR needs to build a bigger prison
Not to be an arse I just felt like posting that. Yeah that would be for the best. Maybe someday
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:06 am to Indefatigable
Other parishes make money housing overflow prisoners. 
It's all a game 
It's all a game Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:17 am to HeadSlash
I do know that they don’t put deadbeat parents in jail because there is no room. And word does get around. Has to be a very very extreme case for a judge to do that. However when they do get remanded for contempt, the parent comes up with just enough money to stay out.
Jail is the only motivation for some to do the right thing or just not commit crimes and we got a lot of these kinds. Some people just need the stick.
Jail is the only motivation for some to do the right thing or just not commit crimes and we got a lot of these kinds. Some people just need the stick.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 11:20 am
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:24 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Not break open the library piggy bank
yet you want another larger prison.
you realize each prisoner costs taxpayers about 40k per year? not to mention the millions we would spend on a new prison.
and let me guess, you call yourself '"conservative"
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 11:26 am
Posted on 11/15/25 at 12:19 pm to sgallo3
How much are we paying to house them at other prisons around the state because EBR doesn’t have room?
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:30 pm to sgallo3
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and let me guess, you call yourself '"conservative"
Yes I do. Very much so. We definitely need more prison space.
As for the cost, if I had the power I would expand the death penalty to cover more crimes and faster resolution on appeals.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:48 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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As for the cost, if I had the power I would expand the death penalty to cover more crimes and faster resolution on appeals.
You’d end up executing quite a few innocent people, but them’s the breaks, if that’s your priority.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:56 pm to Joshjrn
No not innocent. You’re confusing people that get let go because of retrials and witnesses have died or evidence lost. Hardly innocent. And you have the appeals process.
A lot of it is they test the DNA and it doesn’t match the defendant. What they don’t tell you is the DNA wasn’t properly stored and even if it was the defendants you can’t match because it’s too degraded. They didn’t store blood/saliva evidence properly and a lot of these cases were before DNA testing was even heard of by prosecutors and evidence room administrators. That’s not innocent. They scream it’s not my DNA but that’s not really true. It could be but can’t be tested properly now.
What did someone say? You can’t let perfection be the enemy of the good.
Well what do you propose civilizations do with criminals? Rehabilitation? Ha. That’s naive as hell.
A lot of it is they test the DNA and it doesn’t match the defendant. What they don’t tell you is the DNA wasn’t properly stored and even if it was the defendants you can’t match because it’s too degraded. They didn’t store blood/saliva evidence properly and a lot of these cases were before DNA testing was even heard of by prosecutors and evidence room administrators. That’s not innocent. They scream it’s not my DNA but that’s not really true. It could be but can’t be tested properly now.
What did someone say? You can’t let perfection be the enemy of the good.
Well what do you propose civilizations do with criminals? Rehabilitation? Ha. That’s naive as hell.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:59 pm to HeadSlash
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Other parishes make money housing overflow prisoners. It's all a game
No one said they didn’t. It still leads to an overcrowding everywhere.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:11 pm to UptownJoeBrown
Libraries. I love them.
Easily the biggest waste of money per capita on the books.
They don’t get used often. They hide money here in accounting. It’s that simple. The salaries are ludicrous for a job that requires little work.
We are talking physical books people. If any jobs should be gone because of technological advancement these should be it. Everything is online.
Multiple $100,000 plus paying jobs.
Don’t forget assholes that you have to pay them a pension based on salary. So you are on the hook for people making $130,000 for life that work in a library in your local cities.
It is beyond wasteful
Easily the biggest waste of money per capita on the books.
They don’t get used often. They hide money here in accounting. It’s that simple. The salaries are ludicrous for a job that requires little work.
We are talking physical books people. If any jobs should be gone because of technological advancement these should be it. Everything is online.
Multiple $100,000 plus paying jobs.
Don’t forget assholes that you have to pay them a pension based on salary. So you are on the hook for people making $130,000 for life that work in a library in your local cities.
It is beyond wasteful
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:31 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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No not innocent. You’re confusing people that get let go because of retrials and witnesses have died or evidence lost. Hardly innocent. And you have the appeals process. A lot of it is they test the DNA and it doesn’t match the defendant. What they don’t tell you is the DNA wasn’t properly stored and even if it was the defendants you can’t match because it’s too degraded. They didn’t store blood/saliva evidence properly and a lot of these cases were before DNA testing was even heard of by prosecutors and evidence room administrators. That’s not innocent. They scream it’s not my DNA but that’s not really true. It could be but can’t be tested properly now.
No, I mean factually, verifiably innocent. But I’ve had that conversation on here enough times that there’s no need to derail this thread with it
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What did someone say? You can’t let perfection be the enemy of the good.
Now this, on the other hand, feels more honest
Posted on 11/15/25 at 3:19 pm to UptownJoeBrown
I get the feeling Sid Edwards will run again and win when he ran he said he wanted 100 new BRPD officers. Hopefully an expansion or renovation or new construction of the jail happens too. Of course the sooner the better.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 3:19 pm to Joshjrn
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No, I mean factually, verifiably innocent. But I’ve had that conversation on here enough times that there’s no need to derail this thread with it
I just got finished reading a non-fiction book by John Grisham detailing 19 cases of proven false convictions of innocent people. 1 had already been put to death before the courts exonerated him.
Travesty. It was disturbing how hard the DA’s and Police went out of their way to frame these people with fake ‘expert’ testimony or ignoring exculpatory evidence. I know that you can’t really comment much about that and I respect that.
It now gives me pause to feel so strongly for the death penalty.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:29 pm to UptownJoeBrown
You’ve repeatedly said you’re against the EBR DA receiving additional funding so he can hire more prosecutors to make sure criminals aren’t released by a judge for not receiving a speedy trial.
So stop bitching about crime in East Baton Rouge Parish, hypocrite.
So stop bitching about crime in East Baton Rouge Parish, hypocrite.
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