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re: East BTR Homicides YTD, we may beat the all time record!

Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:35 pm to
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That might be the dumbest thing I've seen posted here in quite a while


Why do you think there would still be crime around a cheap, legal product? There are not thefts and violence around alcohol. And there were thefts and massive violence around alcohol when it was illegal.

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:39 pm to
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Why do you think there would still be crime around a cheap, legal product? There are not thefts and violence around alcohol.

That’s because it’s safe and not a dangerous street drug like marijuana
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:08 pm to
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Even the accidental deaths decrease as people become wary of potential fentanyl laced drugs.


As long as curaleaf isn’t secretly putting me out of my misery, I guess I’m good
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3825 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:09 pm to
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I’ve started googling the people who are arrested for murder/violent crime. It’s absurd how many of them were arrested for different violent crimes within the past few years and are (I guess?) out on bond or had charges dropped. Are we getting as bad as New Orleans about not prosecuting violent offenders?



Combine that with all the liberal arguments about Louisiana having such a high incarceration rate. They literally think not incarcerating these repeat offenders will reduce crime.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:11 pm to
Thanks Mayor Broome
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27222 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:24 pm to
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Combine that with all the liberal arguments about Louisiana having such a high incarceration rate. They literally think not incarcerating these repeat offenders will reduce crime.


The argument is that all of those "poor souls" were incarcerated for possession of a small amount of marijuana.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Why do you think there would still be crime around a cheap, legal product? There are not thefts and violence around alcohol. And there were thefts and massive violence around alcohol when it was illegal.

You think if heroin and meth were cheap and plentiful there would be no crime? Is that seriously your position?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:09 pm to
Where does the violence related to heroin and meth come from?

It comes from dealers who are killing each other over territory, disrespect, silencing witnesses, etc. It also comes from users committing thefts to pay for a product, with an artificially high blackmarket price and restricted supply chain.

Would crime go to zero? No. People steal all kinds of legal items and drunks commit crimes as well. But it would plummet.

With the black market gone, there would be lots more resources to deal with addicts, who should then be treated as patients and not criminals.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57222 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:19 pm to
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Which is why I'm for legalization. The drugs actually cost pennies to produce. There is no reason a government created black market should drive up the price of a cheap commodity, resulting in violence and theft.



Legalization has failed miserably in cities and states that have done this.
Posted by WhiskeyThief
Slidell
Member since Oct 2018
286 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:12 pm to
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The only real solution is mass incarceration for violent criminals.


I vote mass execution. Costs the overburdened taxpayer less.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:15 pm to
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Legalization has failed miserably in cities and states that have done this.


Give me example. You are likely referring to decriminalization, which is not the same thing.

Posted by Postalhitman
Member since Aug 2023
5 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:23 pm to
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Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by CaneyLake
Member since Jun 2023
159 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:28 pm to
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A tablet of Oxy costs literally pennies to produce. There is no reason for someone to get robbed or murdered over it.


frick that, that's putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound. Oxy is a fricking life ruiner and people don't need easier access to it.

Bring in Bukele to give a masterclass on shutting down gangs/crime. El Salvador went from one of the most dangerous places on the planet to one of the safest in 18 months.



Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
664 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 11:38 pm to
I won’t pretend to understand how BR is actually doing, but just driving thru, it’s looking pretty drab and run down vs just 10-15 years ago. Also the amount of pure trash balls flying around in altimas and chargers etc is unreal
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15554 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:30 am to
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It comes from dealers who are killing each other over territory, disrespect, silencing witnesses, etc.

We should encourage more of this between the druggies, maybe make it a TV show even
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:56 am to
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Oxy is a fricking life ruiner


Mostly because it’s illegal, hard to get and artificially expensive.

Government created black markets are never good.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11229 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:40 pm to
Adding another to the list:

quote:

One person was killed in a shooting Tuesday afternoon along South 18th Street. The Baton Rouge Police Department said the shooting happened just after 3 p.m. near the corner of South 18th and America streets.


LINK
Posted by RunninReb
Member since Feb 2023
133 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 5:15 pm to
So right now we're averaging a killing every 2 days. That is a hell of an early pace.

If the Summer sees even a modest uptick in murders then 200 could be a realistic number.

Per capita, that probably makes us as dangerous as Juarez, MEX.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202942 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:07 pm to
200 will probably happen. It’s just gonna keep getting worse as the year moves along.
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