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re: Dude is having some mechanical problems with his Ford Mach E
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:14 am to boxcarbarney
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:14 am to boxcarbarney
maybe put your hands on the wheel and turn it?
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:14 am to mudshuvl05
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We are nowhere near the point of it being implemented en masse
Mark this post. 2027 will see fully unsupervised self driving for consumer tesla vehicles.
The newest update coming in the next month makes the consumer FSD less supervised than any of jump they've made so far. Tesla is steamrolling ahead.
Waymo is getting slapped by Tesla and isn't a good example of FSD.
One more thing. FSD isn't just in EV's. Mercedes has their version being released pretty soon, and will be available in their ICE vehicles. Ford as well. Ford's system is called blue cruise or something like that, and it isn't designed to be EV exclusive.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:22 am to SuperSaint
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:24 am to mudshuvl05
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The videos of Waymo cars causing problems are nearly endles on YouTube.
The stories of them all coming back to their parking lot and honking at each other as they park in the middle of the night are pretty funny. Those lucky neighbors
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:31 am to Three
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The fact that it was caught on film is significant...
Personally I've always been reticent to accept the idea that self-driving cars are the future exactly for the reasons displayed in the video.
In any event, given that this was caught on camera and will likely go viral, I believe it would be beneficial for lawmakers to introduce some sort of legislation requiring automobile manufacturers to install an "emergency engine off" button in cars equipped with a self-driving feature.
Further edited to add:
Not to imply that I'm advocating for stricter business regulations; this is simply a public safety issue.
Do you really think that Mach E was in self driving mode? It wasn't. That a-hole was sitting there with his foot planted on the accelerator with all the safety nanny systems turned off.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:32 am to landmanner
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One the first comments mentions it as all electric vehicle that has computer that locks steering and brakes.
Wrong. This is why we don't listen to comments on TikTok
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:32 am to landmanner
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One the first comments mentions it as all electric vehicle that has computer that locks steering and brakes.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:34 am to Three
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Personally I've always been reticent to accept the idea that self-driving cars are the future exactly for the reasons displayed in the video.
You guys are blinded by anti-tech in vehicles. Tesla FSD has 4 billion miles to date. Yeah, you read that right, billion.
And yeah, it's had issues, but I want you to sit there and tell me that the FSD car is less safe than some dipshit on the interstate staring at his phone while he drives 80mph.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:35 am to boxcarbarney
Only thing that could make that video better is if it was an Altima
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:38 am to SuperSaint
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Only thing that could make that video better is if it was an Altima
If I'm driving an Altima, I'm praying like that dude every time I get into it to drive somewhere.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 12:13 pm to MardiGrasCajun
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Automation and robotics lower errors…period.
No, not period. automation and robots historically dont operate outside of controlled environments where the unexpected regularly occurs. Automation can only account for what is "expected." You can't program it to handle what you dont expect. Just look at all the issues autonomous vehicles are having with things like construction sites or roads with little to no line paint.
We will need to completely revamp minimum construction requirements, pavement requirements, line paint requirements, etc. before the roads are completely safe for autonomous vehicles.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 12:15 pm to Oates Mustache
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Ford's system is called blue cruise or something like that, and it isn't designed to be EV exclusive.
Ford's system is only for use on interstates that meet certain minimum criteria (not all will work) and when they do not have construction.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 12:19 pm to Oates Mustache
I wanted to add to this story. When Ford pulls all of the data from this incident which will tell it what the car was doing, I hope they comment on this. If you don't hear anything from them, maybe this story has legs. If they come out swinging this guy is gonna have some serious legal and financial problems soon.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 12:47 pm to Oates Mustache
quote:I'm certainly not going to disagree with the Tesla 2027 prediction. Make no mistake I am not of the boomer mindset that this stuff is decades away and not already in our backyard. I utilize it every day, and it's so effective, even in the early stages, that only a fool couldn't imagine it putting a lot of people out of work, including taxi, Uber and city bus drivers. Technology is comparable to a snowball rolling down a hill: the more it grows, the faster it rolls, which in turn grows it even faster.
Mark this post. 2027 will see fully unsupervised self driving for consumer tesla vehicles.
That said, I said "en masse" anytime soon, not even 2027, and it's not because of the machine, but the human component: It will take a decade plus for the citizenry to even accept the premise, for many reasons, and years for competitors to match the technology, prove its ability and market it, and break into the monopoly where people will buy them willy nilly. There are still millions of Americans desperate for a bare bones ICE commuter vehicle with roll up windows and minimal electronics. What I'm saying is you're not going to flip that script in 2 years. It's just not going to happen, and videos like this, rare as they are, reset the collective conscience of human beings who watch it.
And I also won't disagree that Waymo isn't a good example of FSD, but they are an example nonetheless, and the ridiculous videos of them blocking driveways, trying to drive into construction zones, beeping at each other in the dead of night, stopping in front of oncoming traffic, and more, leads back to the human component of apprehension in accepting FSD as a societal norm. The video in the OP is rare, but the dystopian feeling of watching a robot run a helpless human being into oncoming traffic cannot be ignored regarding its affect on mass implementation.
I just don't think we're there yet, and I don't think we'll be there in 2027, but I could be wrong - I frequently am.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:18 pm to mudshuvl05
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That said, I said "en masse" anytime soon, not even 2027, and it's not because of the machine, but the human component: It will take a decade plus for the citizenry to even accept the premise, for many reasons, and years for competitors to match the technology, prove its ability and market it, and break into the monopoly where people will buy them willy nilly.
I fully agree here, people are scared of this technology. I just question why that same amount of energy isn't there for all the idiots on the road that are so much more dangerous than any self driving car.
I used to hate on Tesla until I started really looking at the tech they test in these cars. I've said it before in a few threads, I test drove and X for 2 days, and getting back into my ICE truck feels like I was transported to 1950. And my truck is not old.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:23 pm to notsince98
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We will need to completely revamp minimum construction requirements, pavement requirements, line paint requirements, etc. before the roads are completely safe for autonomous vehicles.
OK…does this sound like a bad thing to you? It doesn’t to me. All of these things need to be done anyway.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:26 pm to MardiGrasCajun
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OK…does this sound like a bad thing to you? It doesn’t to me. All of these things need to be done anyway.
The point was that isn't currently feasible. It will take years if not decades before safe operating autonomous vehicles can be a reality.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:28 pm to Three
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In any event, given that this was caught on camera and will likely go viral, I believe it would be beneficial for lawmakers to introduce some sort of legislation requiring automobile manufacturers to install an "emergency engine off" button in cars equipped with a self-driving feature.
I'm not a fan of the "regulate me harder, daddy!" approach, but I agree with the need, and it needs to be a 100% hardware function, not software. a lever similar to old parking brakes that physically separates the power connection to the motor(s) or something like that, comparatively to a lever that physically pinches closed the fuel line on a gas powered vehicle.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:30 pm to awestruck
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So you can't take it out of gear?
Nor turn the key to off?
Or tell it to go take a nap?
Hey Siri, can you stop driving into the wall?
Posted on 8/14/25 at 1:31 pm to Oates Mustache
Could an EV have a type of solar option that could be used in a situation like if you don't have enough battery left to get to the nearest charging station?
Thinking of stretches of roads like driving across Texas or Montana for example.
Thinking of stretches of roads like driving across Texas or Montana for example.
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