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re: Driver high on weed kills 3 including 2 kids
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:17 am to Sticky37
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:17 am to Sticky37
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Dear lord the "muh weed" defenders all up in this thread thinking it's an attack on their precious drug.
Dope and video games - criticize either and they take it personally.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:18 am to Masterag
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i think it matters in terms of sentencing purposes with regard to intent. if you hit black ice and kill someone, it's different than getting behind the wheel impaired.
That’s a bit different.
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that said, marijuana doesn't kill people, irresponsible and careless people kill people.
I’m not even a big “yay weed” person. I just don’t think it’s a valid argument against legalization because some people will be irresponsible.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:50 am to BHM
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Penalty for doing so should be equal and harsh.
Testing for impairment should be similar. Alcohol tests for alcohol, not metabolites that stick around for weeks. Until the scientific standards are equal I'll partially dissent. Once that is properly addressed I'd agree 100%.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:56 am to TJGator1215
I think 5 threads is enough for you today
Posted on 5/19/18 at 6:13 am to Sticky37
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Look don't drive while under the influence of any mind altering substance. That simple.
Says the guy who probably drinks coffee before and during driving every morning.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 6:29 am to BHM
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Penalty for doing so should be equal and harsh. Equal money should be spent on education against driving under the influence of any substance.
Pretty sure it is the same, isn’t it? I’m not positive, but a DUI is a DUI regardless of the substance as long as they can prove you’re intoxicated.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:57 am to TJGator1215
Anyone find it weird we learned about this story that happened in California from a news station in Chicago...?
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 7:57 am
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:12 am to Green Chili Tiger
quote:It stays in your system for up to months and hair tests can show it even longer. Residual traces found in his system must mean that he was high on the marijuana at the time of the crash. It is the only logical explanation if you think about it.
How do they know?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:38 am to TJGator1215
Ok. So a DUI and vehicular manslaughter. Got it.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:51 am to fr33manator
That is the valid argument against basically everything being illegal. I am not even a big pro weed legalization person but you could say peope being irresponsible is a valid against agaist driving a car in any situation being legal if you try to actually apply that idea
Eta: I missread your comment, probably the weed making me see things
Eta: I missread your comment, probably the weed making me see things
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 8:54 am
Posted on 5/19/18 at 9:19 am to Masterag
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that said, marijuana doesn't kill people, irresponsible and careless people who get high on marijuana and drive kill people.
FIFY
Posted on 5/19/18 at 9:34 am to tommy2tone1999
The women in this thread
All of y'all's whole ideology about being impaired while driving all stems from a group of bored housewives that got together and said " enough's enough" and "think of the children!" These same people gave us alcohol prohibition and illegal consensual fricking(prostitution).
All blue laws are bad laws. There must be a specific and directly injured party of an action for there to be an illegal act. Anything else and it's just malum prohibitum.
Does it matter why someone causes a wreck unless it was a pure accident while they were paying attention or caused by road conditions? I don't care if somebody was irresponsible and careless while driving drunk, High, chit-chatting with their kids in the backseat, looking at their phone, playing with their radio, Etc. These are all things that should be secondary to paying attention to the road. The bottom line is, they were irresponsible while driving. The reasons for why they were irresponsible shouldn't matter. If you can do all these things and drive well at the same time, then more power to you but if you fail to do that then it's irresponsible driving no matter what the cause.
All you're doing by supporting specific type of irresponsible driving laws is empowering the government to make a moral and legal distinction between different types of distractions and impairments. I don't want the government/bureaucrats and professional politicians making those distinctions. When they do, their priority is always going to be with their own revenue and interests in mind not that of the public. Unlike many of you that claim youre small government conservatives, I actually am because I'm philosophically consistent on topics like this that cause y'all moral outrage.
All of y'all's whole ideology about being impaired while driving all stems from a group of bored housewives that got together and said " enough's enough" and "think of the children!" These same people gave us alcohol prohibition and illegal consensual fricking(prostitution).
All blue laws are bad laws. There must be a specific and directly injured party of an action for there to be an illegal act. Anything else and it's just malum prohibitum.
Does it matter why someone causes a wreck unless it was a pure accident while they were paying attention or caused by road conditions? I don't care if somebody was irresponsible and careless while driving drunk, High, chit-chatting with their kids in the backseat, looking at their phone, playing with their radio, Etc. These are all things that should be secondary to paying attention to the road. The bottom line is, they were irresponsible while driving. The reasons for why they were irresponsible shouldn't matter. If you can do all these things and drive well at the same time, then more power to you but if you fail to do that then it's irresponsible driving no matter what the cause.
All you're doing by supporting specific type of irresponsible driving laws is empowering the government to make a moral and legal distinction between different types of distractions and impairments. I don't want the government/bureaucrats and professional politicians making those distinctions. When they do, their priority is always going to be with their own revenue and interests in mind not that of the public. Unlike many of you that claim youre small government conservatives, I actually am because I'm philosophically consistent on topics like this that cause y'all moral outrage.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 9:37 am
Posted on 5/19/18 at 9:38 am to VanCleef
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tobacco deaths
Is this a real thing?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 9:38 am to PhifeDogg
I thought stoners slowed it down.
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