re: Dr. Jason Karp shows the difference between Canada's Fruit Loop Cereal and America's

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You saying the H/F board isn't promoting the fat shot? Or that you aren't?

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im talking about his opinion on glp1 causing cancer..its stupid as frick

and in general the H&F board isnt promoting it except to those that keep yo-yo dieting and failing to keep the weight off

would you rather the person continue to be morbidly obese or take the shot and be healthy?

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. I just want our govt that already has plenty of funding to do their job and test things before they label them 'safe' or good for use. I want that for food or drug or anything else they label 'safe'.

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A lot of people fail to understand that yes some of these ingredients may be “bad” for you but they are not bad in the low doses humans would ingest them in. Same goes for medicine/alcohol/water/food
sunlight/etc.

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A lot of people fail to understand that yes some of these ingredients may be “bad” for you but they are not bad in the low doses humans would ingest them in. Same goes for medicine/alcohol/water/fo

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I see a lot of posters that consider themselves swamp draining conservatives calling for unelected bureaucrats in a branch with a long history of shady behavior and rent-seeking policy making to extend their reach into people's choices.

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look how many still think diet drinks cause you to get fat, its frickign laughable

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Diet drinks still provoke an insulin response driving blood glucose into the fat cells. They also promote more consumption of sweet foods and drinks.

Also a calorie is not a calorie, regarding calories in vs calories out.
Insoluble fiber is not digested so those calories can be deducted from say, eating 100 calories of almonds.

To put it mildly you’ve been pretty off-base in this thread so far.

Yes, you deduct the fiber carbs from the others.

Important for diabetic/ hyperglycemic patients.

This is because the Healthcare industry is a big money maker in the US and they fund a lot of our D and R political campaigns

In other countries like the UK Healthcare is part of your taxes, so they have less incentive to keep you sick so they can keep charging you more

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Diet drinks still provoke an insulin response driving blood glucose into the fat cells. They also promote more consumption of sweet foods and drinks.

Also a calorie is not a calorie, regarding calories in vs calories out.
Insoluble fiber is not digested so those calories can be deducted from say, eating 100 calories of almonds.

To put it mildly you’ve been pretty off-base in this thread so far.

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prove it. you are full of shite.

we have studies that prove that. i havent been off base once...yall lack understanding of shite and read an article and just take it at face value instead of doing a deep dive into the actual study

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Water and NNS beverages were not equivalent for weight loss and maintenance during a 1-year behavioral treatment program. NNS beverages were superior for weight loss and weight maintenance in a population consisting of regular users of NNS beverages who either maintained or discontinued consumption of these beverages and consumed water during a structured weight loss program. These results suggest that NNS beverages can be an effective tool for weight loss and maintenance within the context of a weight management program.

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let me dumb the study down for you.....year long study, comparing those that drank NNS beverages(diet drinks) lost more weight than those who drank only water



as far as a calorie...a calorie is a measurement of energy so year a calorie is a calorie. you are referring to dietary induced thermogensis and you are not going to eat enough insuluble fiber to make a difference. the only macro you will consume to any extent that is will make a difference is protein....which is why i said once protien and calories are equated



but if im wrong do me a favor and find a studies that prove me wrong.. in the end...yea artificial sweetners have in some studies to cause slightly more insulin resistance but they do not cause weight gain nor more consumption of sweet food. we have studies that show this myth is just completely wrong



im gonna put it mildly...you have no clue wtf you are talking about not at any real cellular level. you equate 1+ 1 so it must equal 2 even though we have dozens and dozens of studies that prove it wrong and you have zero proving you right. and im saying that as some one that mainly eats carnivore. I have not been wrong with one damn thing i have said...you are just naive.


but dont believe me...believe those that know

menno

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Most prior studies found water and diet sodas have the same effects on fat loss. In this study too, in a small subset of the participants who had DXA scans done, the difference between groups in fat loss was not statistically significant, although the soda group lost 1 kg more fat. While the effect isn't huge, this is not the first study to find an advantage in favor of low-calorie sweeteners.

The mechanism of the greater fat loss in these studies is almost certainly unrelated to any metabolic effects concerning energy expenditure. Rather, sweeteners can promote diet adherence by satisfying your sweet tooth without all the calories that otherwise often come with this. If sweeteners help you lose fat, which is incredibly healthy, they may even be net healthy for you.

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Layne Norton

Layne again layne once again blowing holes in your shite

Layne might as well be called Pdiddy he is blowing so many holes



here ya go...a calorie is a calorie and blows a hole in tuabes is bullshite insulin model(frick that conartist POS)

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(These results are in the opposite direction to the predictions of the carbohydrate-insulin model, but the effect sizes are so small as to be physiologically meaningless. In other words, for all practical purposes “a calorie is a calorie” when it comes to body fat and energy expenditure differences between controlled isocaloric diets varying in the ratio of carbohydrate to fat.)

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in other words...calories and protein are all that matter due to Dietary induced thermogenesis of protein being up to 40% and averaging around 20% and the fact the protein is really hard to store as body fat due to mechanisms required by the body to do so

But I want my brightly colored poison treats.

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Maybe the people drinking diet soda were trying harder to lose weight? Correlation does not always equal causation.

One could assume someone drinking nasty arse diet sodas has a stronger desire and will work harder in other areas of their weight loss program than someone just drinking water.

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so you didnt read the study congrats...and this ladies and gentlemen is why you see the BS that is posted on the OT. too busy to read the fricking study.

but ill engage on the drinking soda part...those on the NNS beverage showed high compliance to the diet( all where on a diet and trying to lose weigh or maintain weight loss in that time) and that is what helped them lose weight

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Correlation does not always equal causation.

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no shite. and diet drinks are not special, they dont increase metabolism or anything like that

more they have shown to help people stay compliant on a caloric deficit

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lsu777

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keep educating my man