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re: DR Horton is trying again to get their 900+ lot development approved in Zachary
Posted on 12/11/21 at 11:42 pm to redstick13
Posted on 12/11/21 at 11:42 pm to redstick13
None of this residential real estate mania ends well. None of it. Building spaces that nobody will ultimately care about has consequences.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 12:05 am to BeepNode
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I am not debating constitutional law or claiming that zoning laws are illegal. This is a philosophical discussion about ideologies and how it does or doesn't uniformly apply.
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BeepNode
You literally tried to. Then literally self owned. Before claiming here you weren’t/aren’t.
You’re on a roll with that sense of pride..
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 12:08 am
Posted on 12/12/21 at 6:25 am to goofball
Where it is that area unincorporated.
It not legally in the City of Zachary or City of Baker. Actually closer to Baker.
Would it be extremely funny if Zachary refuses to annex it and it has to be annexed into Baker to receive services.
That would make that development worthless, as the volume of people willing to move into Baker and be in the Baker School district is not there at this time.
It not legally in the City of Zachary or City of Baker. Actually closer to Baker.
Would it be extremely funny if Zachary refuses to annex it and it has to be annexed into Baker to receive services.
That would make that development worthless, as the volume of people willing to move into Baker and be in the Baker School district is not there at this time.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 6:29 am to SulphursFinest
DR Horton is the plague.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 6:35 am to goofball
quote:A. Hays Town is spinning in his grave...
DR Horton
Posted on 12/12/21 at 6:38 am to tigerpawl
Baker North is gonna be the name of development. That place is going downhill quickly
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:32 am to Albino Potato
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Real estate developers are scum. They come in and buy off anyone in their way. I wish that neighborhood they built off Tiger Bend, The Sanctuary, never happened. I have it on very good authority there were species of animals and Indian mounds that should never have been messed with. They bring in big time lobbyist and buy off anyone with votes. They take you to court with no intention of winning, then legally they are able to settle outside of court for money to basically pay you off.
You havr no idea what you are talking about. Typical NIMBY just making up anything to make developers look bad. About the only thing you got right was the Indian Mound, but you still got that wrong since it was preserved. Ride to the back and see for yourself.
If you live in a neighborhood, you wouldn't have a house if it wasnt for a developer. Of course, your development should have been the last one ever approved.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:47 am to johnnyrocket
Part of the agreement with EBRPSS for Zachary to form its own school district requires Zachary schools to take some areas that weren’t within their city limits.
I think that area is one of them.
It was successfully argued last time around, IIRC, that the area would be a massive hindrance to the city of Zachary and the school system between dumping 900 new families in the area and causing a massive traffic problem along HWY 964, as that road is currently a 2 lane highway and already stressed due to Zachary being a bedroom community of people working in BR or elsewhere then coming home via 964 at night.
I think that area is one of them.
It was successfully argued last time around, IIRC, that the area would be a massive hindrance to the city of Zachary and the school system between dumping 900 new families in the area and causing a massive traffic problem along HWY 964, as that road is currently a 2 lane highway and already stressed due to Zachary being a bedroom community of people working in BR or elsewhere then coming home via 964 at night.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:53 am to BeepNode
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BeepNode
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That's quite a slippery slope you got there.
No, it isn’t. It’s literally spelled out as a part of the Supreme Court case that’s almost 100 years old you keep saying you aren’t questioning while obviously making points that are completely refutable by even a cursory understanding of zoning concepts and/or the case they are grounded in precedent on.
Zoning/Ordinances/regs/laws are Constitutionally justified in some aspect of police power and asserted for the public welfare. This is not police power as you may think of it…and let’s be honest you come off as completely or willfully ignorant on this topic so you are likely thinking of it in terms of law enforcement or cops and robbers, etc.
Constitutionally speaking, police power is a concept that allows communities to regulate behavior and enforce order based on health, safety, general welfare and morals of a community. Their abilities are defined by their local governmental bodies. Local communities have the power that is excluded from the state which has the power that is excluded from the Federal Government.
Benefit for the public welfare must be determined in connection with the circumstances, the conditions and the location of the community or situation.
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They are arbitrarily applied and it's still okay to ask if existing laws or regulations meet the standards of freedom we have in general.
All of them are arbitrary because at their core a human judgement call must be made. You are literally arguing AGAINST the freedom of weakened regulations and more personal freedom from a land use perspective by saying that they should be less arbitrary and more tightly regulated. The sheer hypocrisy swimming in this mindset can’t be intentional.
It’s obvious you haven’t thought your own opinion through logically. You seem to be assuming a conservative posture and don’t seem to understand your argument is antithetical to that.
To answer your question, yes, the existing laws and regulations meet the standards of the freedoms we have in general and specific. They have in this instance since the New York Yankees featured Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and the rest of Murderers Row on offense at the Polo Grounds in NYC.
It’s been explained to you multiples times now. You seem too dense to accept the explanation.
But let’s make it simple:
Feds: Own a property in a Flood Zone? Want a loan on it? You MUST buy flood insurance.
Translation: The feds are telling you what to do with your property.
Locals: Assessor says you have to pay property taxes. Sheriff collects them. Want to own it? You pay for the privilege.
Translation: The locals are telling you what to do with your property.
Zoning is a different concept that you’ve had explained to you in this thread in detail. But it compels you to behave or tells you what you can or can’t do with your property.
These aren’t new innovations, Champ.
You can question them. But it looks silly to do so. These things have been settled for a long, long time.
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One day zoning laws in conservative areas will be yet another conservative thing that crazy arse liberals figure out how to hijack, weaponize and use against conservatives. Book it.
The same could be said of conservatives who hijacked them to interject and enforce their views on morality into things like blue laws into the 90’s and early 2000’s. I’m as conservative as they come but if I run out of Maker’s Mark on Sunday while I’m grilling I wanna be able to get a handle. What’s wrong with that?
This argument is circular and needlessly political. Both sides could say the other could weaponize these legal concepts against the ideology of “the other”. That’s why most zoning boards or Boards of Adjustments are appointed at the local level and unpaid volunteers. They try to remove as much of that ideology you’re spouting off about as possible.
But each human being volunteering in those capacities brings their biases with them. It’s silly to think they won’t.
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 8:57 am
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:18 am to LSUengr
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You havr no idea what you are talking about. Typical NIMBY just making up anything to make developers look bad. About the only thing you got right was the Indian Mound, but you still got that wrong since it was preserved. Ride to the back and see for yourself. If you live in a neighborhood, you wouldn't have a house if it wasnt for a developer. Of course, your development should have been the last one ever approved.
Actually, I know several people who worked for the company that surveyed that land. I rode back there on the 4wheelers with them and saw for myself. When they took the Indian mounds down, I saw the video he took. I knew about the species of, I think it was woodpecker, that nested there. Only reason I didn’t make a fuss was I didn’t want to get my friend in trouble and my dad who lives in the surrounding neighborhood wasn’t worried about it. The whole point is it just didn’t sit right with me how the dude who bought the land was able to just get past all kinds of laws and protections. But if you’d like to keep running your mouth about how I don’t know what I’m talking about I’ll be more than happy to embarrass you with more details because I can.
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:38 am to Albino Potato
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But if you’d like to keep running your mouth about how I don’t know what I’m talking about I’ll be more than happy to embarrass you with more details because I can.
Go ahead boss. I can guarantee you that you dont know more about it than me since I was on the development team.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:14 pm to jmcwhrter
Brandon is just trying to help everyone
, just give him another 5 Trillion come on MaN
, just give him another 5 Trillion come on MaN
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:17 pm to BigWillyMetry
Will the houses include a garage filled to the brim with Tupperware bins full of financed consumer grade garbage from homewares stores? Or is that an upgraaaaade?
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:40 pm to Navajo61490
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the development would still reside inside Zachary’s schools and fired districts
The property isn't even in the council district for Zachary. I have several friends putting their homes up for sale and heading north. I think I am about to do the same. The school board, Superintendent, and most of the City of Zachary officials are incompetent fools.
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