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re: Dr. Catherine O'Neal :"If you don't choose the vaccine, you're choosing death"
Posted on 7/17/21 at 7:59 am to AlabamasSalaryCap
Posted on 7/17/21 at 7:59 am to AlabamasSalaryCap
I don’t think you know how quotation marks work. That is not a direct quote from the article at all
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:03 am to iron banks
quote:Of course
The more they push the more I resist. From people I talk with the variant push is not making them more likely to get the vaccine but more suspicious of the ultimate motives.
There are 4 groups of people to monitor if you are trying to get people vaccinated
1. People that were scared as shite of covid that took the vaccine because of that. Those people are already vaccinated, so scare tactics are no longer needed
2. People that got the vaccine because they looked at data and it made sense to them
3. People that will never get through vaccine because they are set in their ways. No need to worry about these people, you won’t budge them
4. People on the fence. Not sure exactly what to do. But scaring them won’t work, because if it did they would have already been vaccinated. You need to speak to these people with facts and data and nothing else until they decide they have seen enough of it
Instead, doctors have zero respect for non doctors. They think everyone not in the medical field is a walking fricking moron that doesn’t know their arse from a hole in the ground
So they constantly use hyperbole because they don’t think us normal human beings can see right through it
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:09 am to lsupride87
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Instead, doctors have zero respect for non doctors. They think everyone not in the medical field is a walking fricking moron that doesn’t know their arse from a hole in the ground
Doctors as a whole do NOT like to be questioned.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:10 am to STEVED00
quote:My job revolves around auditing doctors and tell them what they do wrong
Doctors as a whole do NOT like to be questioned.
Trust me, I understand
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:11 am to ZIGG
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this bitch is being paid by Democrats
This entire pussification of America is being funded by someone or something. Its no way organic.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:15 am to lsupride87
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There are 4 groups of people to monitor if you are trying to get people vaccinated 1. People that were scared as shite of covid that took the vaccine because of that. Those people are already vaccinated, so scare tactics are no longer needed 2. People that got the vaccine because they looked at data and it made sense to them 3. People that will never get through vaccine because they are set in their ways. No need to worry about these people, you won’t budge them 4. People on the fence. Not sure exactly what to do. But scaring them won’t work, because if it did they would have already been vaccinated. You need to speak to these people with facts and data and nothing else until they decide they have seen enough of it Instead, doctors have zero respect for non doctors. They think everyone not in the medical field is a walking fricking moron that doesn’t know their arse from a hole in the ground So they constantly use hyperbole because they don’t think us normal human beings can see right through it
Yes. People like this think there are only two groups:
1. The smart people who get vaccinated
2. The idiots who do not. Since they are idiots, you have to address them on their idiot level. Fear monger as much as possible. Keep saying “we are overwhelmed” without specific data that may confuse the idiot. Talk about the virus like it is alive, calling it a “beast”, “smart”, because these low IQ folk are afraid of monsters and smart people. Talk about football a lot because these morons love football and don’t want to miss it. It’s fine to lie to them because you can’t rationally reason with these nonvaccinated buffoons.
I have been vaccinated, and practice medicine, but this stuff drives me insane and is extremely unprofessional and unethical.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:16 am to lagallifrey
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1. The smart people who get vaccinated
2. The idiots who do not.
If you're under 40 and health, and choose to get vaccinated, don't bitch about anyone else making dumb decisions.
You don't make decisions. You do what you're told to do.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 8:17 am
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:21 am to Open Your Eyes
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At least we know now that you are worthless and your opinion is never to be taken seriously.
Trust me, I don’t need validation from TD but thanks for the feedback
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:21 am to lagallifrey
I’m getting pretty tired of unvaccinated people screaming everyday to try and justify their decisions and then acting as if they’re some prejudiced class of people who need to be treated with kid gloves.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:23 am to Kato
Katie, no one likes you because you’re a lying bitch.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:23 am to Damone
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acting as if they’re some prejudiced class of people who need to be treated with kid gloves.
Aint that ironic. The man who cries about St George, Orgeron, Life in general is upset because people don't wear masks.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 8:24 am
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:27 am to Catahoula20LSU
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people need to ask themselves is why is the government so insistent on getting everyone to take a vaccine
There are some big themes that people need to zoom out and consider to understand where we are.
Recent medicine has been dominated by the push for evidence-based medicine. In spirit this is great. In practicality, it means centrally controlled medical practice. Guidelines and standard protocols are favored over independent free thinking people entrenched in clinical context (gotta have more time to capture data in the ole electronic medical record, furthering central control)
“The data” is rigged
I posted this image earlier to illustrate the importance of the Cochran collaboration. Also of tremendous value are randomized controlled trial’s (RCTs). Confounding the issue is publication bias. “Negative” studies can be withheld while only positive studies published. Randomized controlled trial’s are expensive and typically aggressively funded by pharma and biotech. The data can be skewed by entities that control funding for these trials and what is “the data” that ever gets published (impacting upstream meta-analysis, decision making, policy). If you really dig into some of the current arguments regarding treatments, there is an argument regarding level/ quality of evidence. It behooves one to think what could be impacting the quality and level of evidence and why?
Current Medicine is for profit reductionist scientism
Historically, this has not always been the case. Medical practitioners historically were more closely associated with the mindset of clergy. Ancient cultures used shamans. Mind body and spirit were all considered in more holistic practices (holistic sharing the same derivative as holy...). More recent western practitioners used to wear black (reverencing clergy). The transition to the white lab coat is a definite nod to the takeover of science (technicians, not healers).
Microbe vs Soil
Germ theory has shaped much of modern medicine. Make no mistake about it, antibiotics and infectious disease control have had a huge positive impact on humanity. The issue is that we have misused our tools in time. Currently we are faced with anabiotic resistance due in large part to inappropriate stewardship with these medications by doctors. Hot “new” fields of research include the study of normal human flora (microbiome). This puts us in a territory where we acknowledge that the host factors are probably more important than the pathogen:
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On his deathbed Louis Pasteur said "Bernard was correct. I was wrong. The microbe (germ) is nothing. The terrain (milieu) is everything. There are many variations of this recant. But the essential admission is intact. Bernard was Claude Bernard, who got the terrain theory from Antoine Béchamp (who called it the microzymian theory).
This mindset is important because it shifts the thinking to one of individual autonomy and strength (bolster the individual host) vs pathogen centric approaches (antibiotics, therapies, vaccines). The latter mindset favors a passive victim mindset (fertile ground for those looking for folks to “help”...). Regarding our public health officials helping us...
Public Health recommendations suck
Again, these recommendations are motivated with good intentions, but get polluted with special interests funding. Look no futher than the nutrition recommendations that come down from authorities. If you look back to how these guidelines were created it is rife with very bad science and fear/feelings. These guidelines paved the way for our current diet that is rooted in ultra processed carbohydrate centric foods (by vilifying fat /cholesterol).
Ponder why Coca Cola builds playgrounds
Ponder why McDonalds sponsors wards at children hospitals
Ponder why we are told we have to eat small meals throughout the day
Ponder why most doctors, nurses, dieticians, and public health officials do not appear healthy....
Global reach
It is important to understand that pandemics historically were not as big of an issue when humanity was separated during Hunter gathering days. Pandemics became a thing as humanity moved into constructs where we were living closer to one another. Even then outbreaks were often geographically limited. We are moving into an era of a global interconnected community. Those pushing biotech and vaccines are very much proponents of this globalist mindset. It makes sense for them to push global solutions on to people. The individual autonomy of the host matters little to them. This also aligns with their financial interests
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:28 am to ThinePreparedAni
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Guidelines and standard protocols are favored over independent free thinking people
Society in general.
Its awful. Systems over humanity.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
I don’t care about masks, I’m vaccinated. Looks like you’re classic Fake News.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:30 am to AlabamasSalaryCap
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"We only have two choices: we are either going to get vaccinated and end the pandemic. Or we are going to accept death. A lot of it, this surge, and another surge, and possibly another variant."
Oh look an “ expert” who offers a false dichotomy as medical fact. Do as I say or die. I’m shocked that it also happens to correspond with her political views. Shocked I tell you.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:30 am to lagallifrey
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Yes. People like this think there are only three groups:
1. The smart people who get vaccinated
2. The idiots who do not.
3. Twats that think they know everything
I suppose your #’s 1 and 2 are in my #3.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 8:33 am
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:32 am to Damone
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, I’m vaccinated
So am I
I got vaccinated because I am high risk. You got vaccinated because the media told you to.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:33 am to Damone
you’re complaining a lot in this thread.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:36 am to Damone
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I’m getting pretty tired of unvaccinated people screaming everyday to try and justify their decisions and then acting as if they’re some prejudiced class of people who need to be treated with kid gloves
So, you don't believe in 'my body, my choice' either. You're not a fan of freedom, even if that freedom eventually cost you to get sick. I'm sick of people like YOU that want everyone else to think like you do. I'm vaccinated, but the driving factor for me is that I've been in the job market and I want to be back in an office, not stuck working from home. It was the right decision for me. Due to being vaccinated, I don't give a rats arse if anyone else it. I don't even really discuss their choices with my immediate family because some of them feel a bit differently. It's their choice to make, not mine.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:38 am to Damone
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I’m getting pretty tired of unvaccinated people screaming everyday to try and justify their decisions and then acting as if they’re some prejudiced class of people who need to be treated with kid gloves.
Lol. You are tired of people exercising their own free will based on their own decision logic? And you believe you should be able to compel them to take a positive action or they should be treated harshly ? I don’t think you understand freedom.
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