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re: Dog Owners of the OT, tell me about crating a dog
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:30 pm to Displaced
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:30 pm to Displaced
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Any particular reason you say this? We were considering a boxer for our next dog. I love the look of brindle boxers
He's an idiot. Boxers are great family dogs. They are great with children, but are large enough to give strangers pause. As Sabi mentioned though, boxers are high energy dogs. They have a bad puppy and juvenile stage that you have to work through. But once you get passed that, they are great.
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Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:31 pm to Displaced
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We were considering a boxer for our next dog. I love the look of brindle boxers
I have a GSP/Boxer mix right now, boss has a pure white boxer. Ive owned a lot of dogs but shes the most gentle, smartest Ive had. Wouldn't hesitate to get another. Very good around young children
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:32 pm to Displaced
Boxers are not vicious. At all. They are sweet dogs. Too sweet and hyper for their size.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:32 pm to boxcarbarney
Everyone needs the internet now for things that were completely fine without it before.....
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:32 pm to The Mick
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ou only need to do this for first few weeks. Then you can expand his area with the kid gates. Its for house training purposes mainly.
We had to keep ours in a crate during the day till he stopped eating stuff.
No matter how many toys we left out for him, that mother fricker still chose to chew the baseboards....
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:32 pm to ForeverLSU02
Let me add that the dog will be housebroken. All dogs come from the rescue people house trained. So those kind of accidents should be minimal. Their concern was a new dog in a new environment acting out, or chewing up furniture.
My old boxer was close to perfect when left alone. Except we had to lock the garbage can in a bathroom or she would tear through it. She eventually got over that.
My old boxer was close to perfect when left alone. Except we had to lock the garbage can in a bathroom or she would tear through it. She eventually got over that.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:33 pm to boxcarbarney
Ill admit I don't care for boxers because they are just too hyper and, I'm sorry, they just come across as kind of dumb.
But, obviously lots of people speak highly of them.
But, obviously lots of people speak highly of them.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:34 pm to SabiDojo
Look at how they live in the shelter. Essentially in crates.
I'm going to sit back and listen as I am in this boat. We just adopted a brown mutt for my son. 10 wks. Female and looks like a shepherd mix. Maybe with black nosed/faced curr.
It's the first dog I've had that will be largish. Other dogs were rat terrier mix and a chihuahua. They were both puppy pad trained due to apartment life. This dog will eventually make turds that make a pad impractical.
I'm going to sit back and listen as I am in this boat. We just adopted a brown mutt for my son. 10 wks. Female and looks like a shepherd mix. Maybe with black nosed/faced curr.
It's the first dog I've had that will be largish. Other dogs were rat terrier mix and a chihuahua. They were both puppy pad trained due to apartment life. This dog will eventually make turds that make a pad impractical.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:35 pm to boxcarbarney
I've always crated my dogs and each one hasn't had an issue. As others have said, they generally grow to like it. If we leave the crate open, ours will often go in to take naps. If they whine or act anxious, try covering the crate with a sheet. In my experience, it helps them calm down. Good luck!
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:36 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Everyone needs the internet now for things that were completely fine without it before.....
So you're saying that I shouldn't use the internet to ask opinions from people who may have experience in certain matters? Interesting. Do you have any other nuggets of knowledge you'd like to grace us with? Like how people got around just fine in horse drawn carriages before the automobile?
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:36 pm to boxcarbarney
Best thing you can do is crate.
Comfort, security, housebreaking, training, and a place to hide when in trouble.
I think it reduces anxiety because it gives the dog (as the low ranking pack member) a safe space. It may seem foreign to new dog owners to lock them up and expect good behavior, but that is exactly what happens.
Comfort, security, housebreaking, training, and a place to hide when in trouble.
I think it reduces anxiety because it gives the dog (as the low ranking pack member) a safe space. It may seem foreign to new dog owners to lock them up and expect good behavior, but that is exactly what happens.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:36 pm to boxcarbarney
I'm not an expert but I'll tell you what I'm doing. I just got a new puppy. First day in the house I let her roam freely. She crapped/peed on the floor a total of 6 times, seemingly without forewarning.
Second day I crated her for about 1-2 hours at a time. I took her outside after every 2 hours and she eliminated there. Then I let her run around for a while outside, then a little more inside, then back to the crate. Zero accidents in the house the next day or since then. Seems to be working like a charm.
Dogs want their own space to just lounge/sleep, and are naturally reluctant to soil that space. Toughest part about it is that mine whimpers every time I put her in there, but she's ok after about 10 minutes.
Only problem is if having someone to take her out every few hours isn't an option. I don't like having to crate but it seems necessary to an extent.
Second day I crated her for about 1-2 hours at a time. I took her outside after every 2 hours and she eliminated there. Then I let her run around for a while outside, then a little more inside, then back to the crate. Zero accidents in the house the next day or since then. Seems to be working like a charm.
Dogs want their own space to just lounge/sleep, and are naturally reluctant to soil that space. Toughest part about it is that mine whimpers every time I put her in there, but she's ok after about 10 minutes.
Only problem is if having someone to take her out every few hours isn't an option. I don't like having to crate but it seems necessary to an extent.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:37 pm to The Mick
quote:yea if he is not a puppy.
You only need to do this for first few weeks
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:38 pm to boxcarbarney
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They have a bad puppy and juvenile stage that you have to work through.
My point is there are so many dogs that don't have that issue.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:39 pm to SabiDojo
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Ill admit I don't care for boxers
There's a place in hell for people like you.
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they just come across as kind of dumb.
They are actually quite intelligent. The problem is
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they are just too hype
and this can overshadow how smart they really are. And, like any other breed, it really depends on the dog itself and how it's trained. Both of my boxers started off very hyper, but we were able to work passed that. They were still energetic and fun, just not in that crazy adhd way.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:39 pm to boxcarbarney
Make sure it gets out at least ten to fifteen minutes a day or that thing will smell like shite.
Also try and cut some holes in it so it can see some light, they find that comforting.
Also try and cut some holes in it so it can see some light, they find that comforting.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:40 pm to boxcarbarney
The trick is to not make crating a punishment. It needs to be, as bad as it sounds, a "safe space" or home that the dog wants to go to. Once trained you should be able to leave the gate open and the dog should prefer to be inside than out.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:41 pm to Displaced
I had a boxer that lived to be 14. Was a sad day when I heard he needed to be put down. He went everywhere with me and did everything I asked. there was no going do his own thing. He literally wanted to stay by my side everywhere. I still miss him. Boxers are great dogs just like any other. Its just like a child. If you dont teach a child anything and just let them do , you cant get mad when they dont listen.
As for crating, my wife has a yorkie poo that loves his crate. He has no problems going to it and sleeps in it during the day. If I tell him to go in it, he will run in there and be content.
She had a mini dachshund years ago that had bad anxiety and hated the crate. Tear up everything in the house. I was glad when she accidentally ran over that little bitch. I dont like dogs in the house but I compromised with the wife and glad the yorkie worked out.
I have an Australian Shepherd puppy. When I get home I have to fence in the backyard to get him out the house. He will shed too much to keep him inside.
As for crating, my wife has a yorkie poo that loves his crate. He has no problems going to it and sleeps in it during the day. If I tell him to go in it, he will run in there and be content.
She had a mini dachshund years ago that had bad anxiety and hated the crate. Tear up everything in the house. I was glad when she accidentally ran over that little bitch. I dont like dogs in the house but I compromised with the wife and glad the yorkie worked out.
I have an Australian Shepherd puppy. When I get home I have to fence in the backyard to get him out the house. He will shed too much to keep him inside.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:41 pm to SabiDojo
It's a good idea during puppy years, until they stop chewing on everything. The most important thing is to NEVER use it as a punishment. This will cause anxiety if you create them in their timeout place. When my dog needed punishment, I'd put here in a bathroom with all the lights off (at the time, I didn't have a bathroom window).
Dogs (really wolves) used to live in caves. The theory is, it comforts them to have their own special place. You put a blanket over it, to make it cave like. It helps to feed them inside of it, and give them treats when they go inside on their own.
Mine didn't like it at first, but eventually would go in their in her own, and she loved it.
If it's already heartbroken, size doesn't matter. But if you're training, you want it to be just big enough to have bed inside and be comfortable, but not big enough to piss in it, and get away from the piss. The rule of thumb for dogs is that they can hold it for up to an hour per month in age. That's why I waited into 8-9 months to crate train her, and cleaned a lot of piss those first few months.
But once it started, I was glad I did it. I always thought it was a shitty thing to do to a dog, until I read the research.
Dogs (really wolves) used to live in caves. The theory is, it comforts them to have their own special place. You put a blanket over it, to make it cave like. It helps to feed them inside of it, and give them treats when they go inside on their own.
Mine didn't like it at first, but eventually would go in their in her own, and she loved it.
If it's already heartbroken, size doesn't matter. But if you're training, you want it to be just big enough to have bed inside and be comfortable, but not big enough to piss in it, and get away from the piss. The rule of thumb for dogs is that they can hold it for up to an hour per month in age. That's why I waited into 8-9 months to crate train her, and cleaned a lot of piss those first few months.
But once it started, I was glad I did it. I always thought it was a shitty thing to do to a dog, until I read the research.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:43 pm to boxcarbarney
Crate them until they gain your trust. For about a year I crated my lab when I was gone but after that I quit putting her in there except for bed time. She never uses the bathroom or destroys anything.
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