re: Does you know anyone who is a “traveler” or a “sovereign citizen”?

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They can be extremely dangerous.

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I recently listened to a podcast on the Sovereign Citizen movement. It got started back in the 60s or 70s with a group called Posse Comitatus. They interpreted the posse comitatus law to mean something not really even close to what it actually states and it was basically all to avoid paying taxes. But they were not afraid to use violence and had many shootouts with law enforcement.

Sovereign citizen and first amendment “auditors” are both shitstains on society

Came across several while I was practicing law. Our SOP was to send them a two sentence letter: "I am in receipt of your communication dated X. Your interpretation of the law is incorrect." Never had one show up in court.

I does, because sometimes i does that like dat.

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Sovereign citizen and first amendment “auditors” are both shitstains on society

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Sovereign citizens are simply wrong. Their BS is just stupid.

First amendment "auditors", certainly silly, have done some positive shite. Many police departments use those videos for training, specifically training on how not to escalate a situation that is obviously benign. You'd think with the millions of youtube videos of cops escalating a situation involving one of these morons it would get harder and harder to bait cops into interacting....it doesn't seem to be, the videos continue to roll in, hundreds daily, more ofthen than one would think was possible involving the same cops, the same police departments and the same "auditor". The guy from south Florida has interacted with the same 20 or so cops HUNDREDS of times and can bait those morons into asking for his ID again and again and again. Their boss ought to fire their asses for being soooooooo dumb but apparently being brain dead is not a barrier to entry in the field in south Florida.

The truly staggering part about first amendment "auditors" aint that they exist and do what they do....people do all sorts of silly shite. What boggles the mind is the number of policemen who willingly interact with them and escalate the encounter to the point that they get sued and lose their jobs....costing the taxpayer on both accounts. Wrestling with hogs is, apparently, something cops just can't avoid....like crack and heroine to an addict it is what drives them, apparently. When someone calls and says "there is a man on the street with a video camera" dispatchers should respond "so?"....instead they send out a cop who then calls in several more, all of them asking for ID when they know damn well who the person is and that they are not involved in a crime....over and over and over again. Its uncanny how often they can bait cops into this behavior.

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Sovereign citizen and first amendment “auditors” are both shitstains on society

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Order fo shitstains
1) Sovereign Citizens
2) Police
3) Politicians


Anyone who holds the governent to account when it comes to the Constitution is not a shitstain unless you are a police state loving communist. The local news is a 1st amendment auditor. People assembling peacefully are 1st amendment auditors, etc. Sorry the Bill of Rights annoys you.

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Reminds of that idiot on here who refused to get his son a SSN/driver's license

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Whatever to that guy’s lawsuit or whatever he was trying to do?

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Seems like it’s always black people pulling that sovereign citizen bullshite.

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Not in my experience. I haven't exactly kept track, but I would ballpark somewhere in the range of 75% white to 25% black.