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re: Does This Look Like The Face Of A Criminal To You?
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:42 am to Sid in Lakeshore
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:42 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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Must have felt you were losing the argument
It's your stupid logic carried farther out.
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Laws are laws. Dogs in public places need to be restrained.
Link to a law saying the dog needs to be restrained in it's domicile.
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Children are children.
That doesn't absolve them of consequences for their actions.
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Business and dog owners bear certain responsibilities. Period.
Babysitting is a business last I checked.
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:43 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Still don't know why anyone takes the vet at face value when he wasn't in the room
You really can't take either story as 100% fact. So why go for putting the dog down with such flimsy evidence? If we had a clearer picture of the situation, this would probably be easier.
There's no reason to go THAT far when you have no idea if the dog was at fault or not. The best we know this is the babysitter's fault and the vet's fault. They should pay, not the dog.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:43 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Cool. Happens all the time, let's make up what we think happened and move along
Feel free to keep taking the words of a personal injury attorney at face value.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:43 am to TheCaterpillar
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n a private business?
That he allowed a child to enter. HE is responsible.
If the floor was wet and someone slipped, would he be responsible? Yes he would.
He knowingly allowed a potentially dangerous condition to remain. And the dog bit. he is responsible.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:44 am to Sid in Lakeshore
The dog was antagonized at a vet, in the vets office, hiding under a desk. Just separate it from the customers. Why are people over reacting? He didn't kill the kid or attempt to kill the kid or anything. He snipped. Dogs do that when you pester and corner them.
ONLY reason this is a story is because the family hired a personal injury lawyer.
ONLY reason this is a story is because the family hired a personal injury lawyer.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:45 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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That he allowed a child to enter. HE is responsible.
If the floor was wet and someone slipped, would he be responsible? Yes he would.
He knowingly allowed a potentially dangerous condition to remain. And the dog bit. he is responsible.
Are you a personal injury lawyer? I find your general POV on the things quoted above to be disgusting and a great example of our overly litigious society.
Lets fricking sue everyone!
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:45 am to LNCHBOX
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Feel free to keep taking the words of a personal injury attorney at face value.
This part has nothing to do with the personal injury lawyer. You basically said since some kids have antagonized dogs in the past, that all cases of dogs biting kids are the kids fault and that a person who wasn't in the room is justified in blaming a child for the incident instead of the abused dog that he kept in that room.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:45 am to LNCHBOX
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n it's domicile.
Man, you are a complete moron. Can people who let there dogs run loose claim the world is their domicile? This was a place of business. The children enters as customers.
business owner has a duty.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:45 am to TheCaterpillar
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He snipped.
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very unfortunately tore off a large portion of the child’s ear, which will require the child to undergo multiple surgeries,”
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:46 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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You basically said since some kids have antagonized dogs in the past, that all cases of dogs biting kids are the kids fault and that a person who wasn't in the room is justified in blaming a child for the incident instead of the abused dog that he kept in that room.
I didn't basically say that at all.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:46 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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That he allowed a child to enter. HE is responsible.
If the floor was wet and someone slipped, would he be responsible? Yes he would.
He knowingly allowed a potentially dangerous condition to remain. And the dog bit. he is responsible.
What if another animal bit the kid in his office? He allows other animals- knowingly- into his place of business. Is he responsible?
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:47 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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This part has nothing to do with the personal injury lawyer. You basically said since some kids have antagonized dogs in the past, that all cases of dogs biting kids are the kids fault and that a person who wasn't in the room is justified in blaming a child for the incident instead of the abused dog that he kept in that room.
He isn't suing the kid. He is just trying to save his dogs life.
Why does the family want the dog put down? What good does it do them? The dog didn't kill or maim anyone.
He snipped. It happens. People need to chill.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:47 am to TheCaterpillar
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You know it was a joke, right?
I do, it was just a bit on the tasteless side as others have pointed out.
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I don't think anyone is really at fault.
Actually there's fault on both ends. The babysitter should have been watching the child closer. But along with this, the vet, as the business owner is likewise responsible for the dog he had on his premises. The fact this boy had part of his ear torn off is a direct result of both of them failing to take care of their responsibilities.
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Dog was pestered and cornered by a tiny kid that didn't know better.
That's what the vet is claiming. From the story he was not in the room when this all took place so how can he know? On top of this he's got a very good motive to try and spin this story due to the fact he's not only facing losing his dog, he's also at risk of losing a massive amount of money in the lawsuit. I'm not saying the babysitter is telling the truth either. All I'm saying is there are two versions of what happened and there is no way for any of us to know with any certainty which version is the truth.
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The dog should be separated from now on from customers and the babysitter should choose a new profession.
Without knowing the full facts of the matter, I cannot say with any certainty what should happen to the dog, be it removed from the business or put down. As for the babysitter, I agree with you as to what should happen to her. As I said above, she failed to recognize the danger the child was in just before the dog attacked. Four year old kids have no sense of impending danger from dogs, that's why it's up to the adult in charge of that child to be wary of any unfamiliar dog.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:48 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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Man, you are a complete moron
I love name calling.
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Can people who let there dogs run loose claim the world is their domicile?
Another complete ridiculous comparison.
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This was a place of business.
That the vet owns and can have animals stay there.
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business owner has a duty.
As does the babysitter that allowed this child into this position.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:48 am to 68wDoc68w
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He snipped.
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very unfortunately tore off a large portion of the child’s ear, which will require the child to undergo multiple surgeries,”
per Personal Injury lawyer.
I bet he has the kid in a wheelchair and neck brace too.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:48 am to TheCaterpillar
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The dog didn't kill or maim anyone.
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very unfortunately tore off a large portion of the child’s ear, which will require the child to undergo multiple surgeries,”
I beg to differ
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:48 am to TheCaterpillar
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TheCaterpillar
I'm an engineer and I don't care how you feel.
I'm not defending our overly litigious society, but I do realize a dog and business owner has certain responsibilities.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:48 am to 68wDoc68w
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The child wandered into his office while he was in an exam room and started throwing toys at Padi, a dog that resides at the clinic, Gartenberg told the Herald-Tribune. The black Labrador-mix tried to hide beneath his desk but the boy followed it, Gartenberg said. Gartenberg believes the dog felt “cornered.”
There is no mention of the dog roaming or wandering. Only the kid.
frick it though, kill the dog and give the family a punitive award. America.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:48 am to TheCaterpillar
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Why does the family want the dog put down? What good does it do them? The dog didn't kill or maim anyone.
I'm not saying you're retarded, but you might want to have some tests run
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:48 am to TheCaterpillar
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per Personal Injury lawyer
are you a complete idiot because this has literally been the only thing you have said
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