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re: Does anyone regret getting vaccinated?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:50 pm to Steadyhands
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:50 pm to Steadyhands
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I never implied it wasn't helpful having a vaccine for it, however, pushing this vaccine so hard is about the money and not about the health of Americans.
You're trying too hard with this response. If that was the case you'd see other countries going in the exact opposite direction as us. It's not about money...it's about NOT having a true solution that is fullproof....so you double, triple, even quadruple down on what works to an extent.
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If you need regular boosters, then this vaccine isn't that great after all. How about push to get some better vaccines that last, out and approved.
Cool, so what's the plan until then? We just going to stop on the vaccine push that we know keeps people alive and out of the the ICU at a much higher rate until then? This vaccine is the only tool we have to fight this plague. Who cares how many boosters there are. If it keeps our immune systems stronger in a macro sense, then we take as many as are required. If it's yearly, then it's yearly.
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There's no incentive to make it better when the president is your salesman and his method is get it or you lose your livelihood and freedom. Go ahead and get your boosters, you're saving so many lives. I will continue to go out in public maskless and vaccine free everyday. If I happen to be spreading covid at some points... Well, your right to be protected from covid can come at your expense and it stops when you get into my personal space. Vice versa for me to everyone else. They need to treat this vaccine like the flu shot, period.
This is such a weird flex. "I'm anti-science and you can't make me not be stupid" Yeah, frick grandma and anyone around you that might not have as strong of an immune system as you. Keep dragging those knuckles bro...
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:55 pm to Steadyhands
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here's no incentive to make it better when the president is your salesman and his method is get it or you lose your livelihood and freedom.
You completely ignore the 6 month period where there wasn't any mandate, and people still refused to get it. There isn't even a government mandate in effect right now and you're still using it as an excuse.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:55 pm to Thracken13
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I did not do it as some grand gesture to pat myself on the back.
Perhaps not you. Plenty do, however. Many have been led to believe that vaccinating yourself helps others not get the Rona. Regardless of the truth thereof, they go on to tout their vaccine as some sort of moral stance and/or sacrifice.
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why you feel the need to be a colossal dick about my decision
I'm not being a colossal dick.
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what I felt was the right thing to do
Good for you. Seriously. We should all try and be helpful, kind, and all that jazz. It's worth noting, however, that vaccinating yourself doesn't do anything special for others. If someone letting you know things is "being a colossal dick," wait until you come across an actual dick.
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if it helps you feel morally superior, have at it champ.
If playing the innocent, well-intending, sad puppy helps you feel morally superior, you do you, bud.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:07 pm to Obtuse1
Sorry. I guess in this day and age I have to specify that studies should be peer reviewed and not from 6 months ago.
Interesting study to link to support your claims.
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Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory.
Interesting study to link to support your claims.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:10 pm to crap4brain
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I normally never get sick and when I do I would recover quickly. Since I've gotten the vaccine I've been sick twice and it seems to take forever to recover. It seems like I have lost my natural immunity.
So you never get sick and also recover quickly? Seems like an availability bias at play.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:10 pm to lsufb1912
Nope. Is there a reason why I would regret it?
My life has been the exact same post-vax as it was pre-vax.
My life has been the exact same post-vax as it was pre-vax.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:13 pm to lsufb1912
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Why would someone decide to get the vaccine months ago, but not get a booster? Feeling like they got duped is the only reason i can think of
Or they understand how vaccination schedules are developed, and know that multiple shots during a primary program is common.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:18 pm to LSU Delirium
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Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory.
Interesting study to link to support your claims.
I posted that one because if you had or did ready the study you would have 1 or 2 responses to it. You missed one but you picked up on the other.
Your response doesn't tell me if you are dumb, ignorant, or obfuscating but it is one of the three.
The point I used both studies for was to support this statement:
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the vaccines reduce the chance of transmission
If it reduces the risk of infection and accelerates the viral clearance then it reduces the numbers of infected and reduces the time which an infected person can transmit. Both of those reduce the number of transmissions by vaccinated individuals in the population.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:23 pm to LSU Delirium
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Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory.
Interesting study to link to support your claims.
It says pretty clearly that vaccination reduces the risk of infection. The fact that a breakthrough infection is possible doesn't negate that. Again, this goes back to my earlier post that said it isn't a 0% or 100% thing with no in between. In simple terms, if someone wears sunscreen (vaccine) and gets a sunburn anyway (breakthrough infection) it doesn't mean that sunscreen does nothing.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:24 pm to lsufb1912
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Does anyone regret getting vaccinated?
Is this a joke?
NO ONE has been truly vaccinated. There would have to be a vaccine for that to happen.
Months old test drugs used on lab rats do not count as vaccines.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:24 pm to The Spleen
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If the Biden admin continued pouring the same resources/money into education
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It's definitely Biden's fault, and not the fault of the lying grifters that told people it's not an actual vaccine, it alters your DNA, it causes sterility, or any other made up BS to dissuade people from getting it.
That's just it.. Rather than fighting these rumors with continued education and science, they decided a mandate was the way to go. Nothing makes a skeptical populace trust their government more than when they're forcing people to get a vaccine they're already afraid of.
Now the strict divide intensifies, with republican AG's going to court to fight it in literally half the states in the US. You can't honestly believe that there was no better alternative.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:25 pm to lsufb1912
I absolutely do.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:25 pm to lsufb1912
Yep. With a do over would not do it. COVID was a pfft for me and I prefer relying on my immune system. Make no mistake, this is not a vaccine.
Oh, I have never had a flu shot or a reason to have one.
Oh, I have never had a flu shot or a reason to have one.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:26 pm to The Spleen
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You completely ignore the 6 month period where there wasn't any mandate, and people still refused to get it. There isn't even a government mandate in effect right now and you're still using it as an excuse.
Wrong. There's a government mandate if you work for the government. Additionally, there are a bunch of companies now starting to mandate it because of the government.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:27 pm to Tiger Ree
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Is this a joke?
NO ONE has been truly vaccinated. There would have to be a vaccine for that to happen.
Months old test drugs used on lab rats do not count as vaccines.
Good to know you are a dumbass everywhere, not just the rant.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:29 pm to lsufb1912
I’m a white Biden voter who votes just left of center. I was against getting vaccinated with Trump in office when I heard rumors of it coming out. Once Biden took power I’m all pro-vaccine now and it should be mandated
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:33 pm to Giantkiller
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Rather than fighting these rumors with continued education and science
That wasn't working. It still doesn't work. The thing about morons is that they are immune to correction.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:35 pm to keakar
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yes, they all do, but they will never admit it, because they will then have to admit to being stupid enough to believe the lies.
I was wondering what went wrong in my life until I read this.
Now I know how and why why my life was ruined.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:35 pm to kennypowers
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I never implied it wasn't helpful having a vaccine for it, however, pushing this vaccine so hard is about the money and not about the health of Americans.
You're trying too hard with this response. If that was the case you'd see other countries going in the exact opposite direction as us. It's not about money...it's about NOT having a true solution that is fullproof....so you double, triple, even quadruple down on what works to an extent.
I wasn't clear enough. It is about health, but to say it is only about health and not about money at all is stupid.
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If you need regular boosters, then this vaccine isn't that great after all. How about push to get some better vaccines that last, out and approved.
Cool, so what's the plan until then? We just going to stop on the vaccine push that we know keeps people alive and out of the the ICU at a much higher rate until then? This vaccine is the only tool we have to fight this plague. Who cares how many boosters there are. If it keeps our immune systems stronger in a macro sense, then we take as many as are required. If it's yearly, then it's yearly.
What is this we? It's not a we thing. I never said these vaccines were bad, but not everyone needs to take them. The vaccine is not the only tool either. You're trying to hard with this response. Anyone who has a bad immune system, is unhealthy, and/or is elderly, should seriously consider getting one of the vaccines for additional help. To imply we as in all of us should... Why? Justify that thought with logic and data.
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