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re: Do you tip on meal + tax or just meal?

Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:02 pm to
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We don't tip bartenders as much for drinks as we do waiters for food.


I tip bartenders way more than waiters....and I generally tip over 20% for food

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So do I remove the alcohol amount from the waiters check and just tip on food on the bill, and leave cash for the drink tip?


waiters tip out the bartender based on sales I think...so if they get bad tips they still have to tip the bartender
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:02 pm to
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That's exactly my method as well. Unless I'm drunk or otherwise in a good mood.


True. My two fave watering holes in BR, I tend to round up to an even number and tip very well(recently my credit card has contacted me b/c the tip was more than the drinks) b/c I'm usually not paying full price for everything.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:03 pm to
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Exactly what I do.


That's how BR Public School Trash do.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67251 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:04 pm to
Before the tax. I usually pretty much just double whatever the tax is.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:04 pm to
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For us black folk, if we get good service, that means no tip. For bad service, we bitch to the manager until our meal is comped.



Know how to keep a canoe from tipping?

Paint it black.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:04 pm to
I'm a former server who tips on meal and tax. But honestly, I can see where you would just tip on the meal. Wtf does the tax have to do with anything?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:04 pm to
Tipping based on a % is antiquated and really should be phased out.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:05 pm to
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waiters tip out the bartender based on sales I think


at most places, yes.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:06 pm to
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Tipping based on a % is antiquated and really should be phased out.


do you think waiters would prefer no tips?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:06 pm to
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I tip bartenders way more than waiters


yeah, and the more i drink the more i tip.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:09 pm to
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tip bartenders way more than waiters....and I generally tip over 20% for food



Are you sure?

Give some examples.

$10 drink = $2 tip
$5 drink = $1 tip
$100 tab = $20 tip
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56773 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:11 pm to
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$10 drink = $2 tip
$5 drink = $1 tip


I'm not ordering tough shite. If I get a $18 neat bourbon, I'm only going to tip a dollar. It's a three second pour, frick giving someone a few extra bucks just because I want top shelf.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:13 pm to
I tip on the total.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:14 pm to
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do you think waiters would prefer no tips?


Depends on what their wages would be otherwise, right?

Probably not.

And I didn't say tipping is antiquated, because I believe there should be some incentive for better service, but basing on a percentage of the meal cost is a bit antiquated, and doesn't always accurately reflect the effort and value of the server.

Example, my wife and I go out with another couple. We order two appetizers, and all order entrees... great, no problem. We order a $50 bottle of wine and the other couple drinks water all night. The server is going through just as much trouble keeping their waters filled as it is to pour the wine, but they aren't going to tip for that server's efforts to keep the water filled, while we are expected to tip in the $10 range for the wine. Fair?

I'm not saying I have a better solution (other than possibly doing away with tipping altogether and paying servers legit wages) but basing it on a percentage is really a cockeyed way of going about it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96254 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:16 pm to
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at most places, yes.


This makes sense. And, for the record, bartending just isn't as difficult as waiting tables, all other things being considered.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175703 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:17 pm to
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The prices at restaurants & bars have increased significantly over recent years. 15-20% today is more than the 15-20% they were getting 5 or 10 years ago for the same work. Servers get a cost of living raise every time the prices on the menu go up.



You do have a point here. If food and beverage inflation outpaces normal inflation then the wages of service industry employees would increase at a rate faster than inflation.

And I generally tip pretty well but I have little patience for service industry employees who complain about their tips since pretty much all of them don't declare much of their cash tips anyway.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:17 pm to
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I'm not ordering tough shite. If I get a $18 neat bourbon, I'm only going to tip a dollar. It's a three second pour, frick giving someone a few extra bucks just because I want top shelf.




Exactly.

I think that the poster I was replying to isn't correct in his assumption he tips more to bartenders...
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:18 pm to
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We order a $50 bottle of wine and the other couple drinks water all night


I see your point...never really thought about that
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56773 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:18 pm to
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And, for the record, bartending just isn't as difficult as waiting tables, all other things being considered.


That is completely dependent on what kind of bartender we are talking about. Staff at a restaurant? Absolutely. That's pretty easy stuff if you know how to make drinks.

Being behind the bar at a busy, late-night establishment in a college town? That shite is ball-busting.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:21 pm to
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