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re: Do you think tithing (10%) to the church is a Biblical requirement?
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:20 am to JiminyCricket
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:20 am to JiminyCricket
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I do it because my church is very transparent with where the funds go and I have seen it at work in people's lives.
That's the exception, not the rule. As long as it's being put towards infrastructure, events, outreach/projects, etc then it's your money
I have friends that lob cash into the megachurch mystery box where the pastors are driving escalades and porsches and just laugh
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:21 am to Shexter
I tend to skip the middleman and like to see where the funds and donations are going. But, i also place funds in the offering basket. I also give my time to the community.
I don't like to see my funds going towards these new massive church buildings with huge bands and worship leaders with backup singers. From my knowledge some are not performing for free.
I don't like to see my funds going towards these new massive church buildings with huge bands and worship leaders with backup singers. From my knowledge some are not performing for free.
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 11:23 am
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:23 am to Mike da Tigah
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Absolutely not. First off, we are under a completely different covenant, and as such, dead to the law of Moses, of which we were never under anyway.
Jesus wants you to give as your heart desires as He loves a cheerful giver. Those making rules like this are in confusion with the gospel and the covenant we are under. You don’t mix Jesus and Moses.
I will say that I find it to be an incredibly hypocritical position that many take relative to generosity. I see it all the time even at our church, which is pretty generous overall. The same folks who come in and complain about free loaders and entitlements given out by the government see no issue whatsoever coming to church week after week and enjoying the benefits of the tithes of others. And God forbid the air be too hot or too cold or the chair be too hard or too soft. The same ones that complain about takers in the world love to do them some taking in the church.
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 11:25 am
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:23 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Side note - may someone please explain to me why there is so much Bible interpretation required of such significant text - eternal salvation of humanity rests within it...
Yet, the OT, almost weekly, delves into Bible-related topics that are full of space for interpretation. For eternal salvation!
How is that?
For eternal salvation, like infinity...should not the Bible be ultra, ultra, ultra crystal clear? No question about it?
Educate me on this.
Yet, the OT, almost weekly, delves into Bible-related topics that are full of space for interpretation. For eternal salvation!
How is that?
For eternal salvation, like infinity...should not the Bible be ultra, ultra, ultra crystal clear? No question about it?
Educate me on this.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:27 am to Everyday Is Saturday
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Side note - may someone please explain to me why there is so much Bible interpretation required of such significant text - eternal salvation of humanity rests within it...
Yet, the OT, almost weekly, delves into Bible-related topics that are full of space for interpretation. For eternal salvation!
How is that?
For eternal salvation, like infinity...should not the Bible be ultra, ultra, ultra crystal clear? No question about it?
Educate me on this.
The bible is very clear, people just read into things and make cases that don't contextually make sense sometimes. If you want an ultra clear instruction of what God wants from us......
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27 Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.” 28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:29 am to Carson123987
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That's the exception, not the rule. As long as it's being put towards infrastructure, events, outreach/projects, etc then it's your money
I have friends that lob cash into the megachurch mystery box where the pastors are driving escalades and porsches and just laugh
I understand that, I'm just saying from a logical perspective, that would be a reason to no longer give to the latter of those two examples, not to stop giving entirely. If you don't trust your church with the tithe you give, go to another church and give there.
We don't stop going to our doctor because we saw a news story about a corrupt one.
We don't stop riding in cars with people because some folks drive drunk.
In all cases, we evaluate the integrity of the party we are engaged with and if they don't pass the sniff test, idk why anyone would continue to engage with them.
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 11:32 am
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:29 am to Carson123987
Anyone that gives to non-denominational megachurches with fake "pastors" is the biggest sucker alive
They are literally stealing your money
They are literally stealing your money
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:39 am to Harry Rex Vonner
No. It was part of the Mosaic Law which Jesus sacrifice made nil.
It doesn't mean giving to the church is bad, but it should come from the heart.
In fact Jesus Jewish religious heirarchy for meticulously giving a tenth of mint, spices, etc. while treating rank and file Jews like dirt.
It doesn't mean giving to the church is bad, but it should come from the heart.
In fact Jesus Jewish religious heirarchy for meticulously giving a tenth of mint, spices, etc. while treating rank and file Jews like dirt.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:40 am to metallica81788
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Anyone that gives to non-denominational megachurches with fake "pastors" is the biggest sucker alive
They are literally stealing your money
Yep. Total farce
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:40 am to JiminyCricket
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The bible is very clear, people just read into things and make cases that don't contextually make sense sometimes.
Evidently not.
I sincerely do not mean to be flippant or antagonist. Merely stating my observation. This Bible verse is an example of what I mean.
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Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.” 28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
If eternal salvation is at stake (like forever after-life seriousness), that verse could be simplified and made much more clear such that space to read things into it is removed.
ChatGPT version:
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Do not prioritize temporary things; prioritize eternal life. Eternal life is given by the Son of Man, who is authorized by God. The required work is this: believe in the one God sent. Tithe 10% of your 1099 earnings every week to your church.
Ok a little flippant on 1099…joshing to the point of being clear on the point. It’s only eternal salvation we are talking about. Interpretation risk should not be allowed.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:45 am to Everyday Is Saturday
I'm a little confused because you jumped around a bit. Are you asking if tithing is required for salvation or are you asking why if the bible is so clear do people have different interpretations?
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:46 am to Shexter
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10% of a million dollar salary is $100k. I can guarantee you they aren't giving $2,000 to the church every Sunday morning.
1. They probably give online. Or old people mail checks.
2. Some give more.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:49 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I think to have Abraham's blessings you are blessed to be a blessing.
I know a couple of multi millionaires and they are very adamant about this.
I know a couple of multi millionaires and they are very adamant about this.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:50 am to Shexter
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10% of a million dollar salary is $100k.
I can guarantee you they aren't giving $2,000 to the church every Sunday morning.
Most of your high amount, consistent givers tend to give a normal amount monthly but will donate lump sums either to fund various projects or for infrastructure.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:55 am to JiminyCricket
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Most of your high amount, consistent givers tend to give a normal amount monthly but will donate lump sums either to fund various projects or for infrastructure.
Also a lot of those people have widely variable incomes and may look up at the end of the year and realize they made way more money that year than prior years.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:55 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I think the general idea is to be generous and help those in need. Only you and God know if you're fulfilling that.
Demanding a specific % seems like legalism which Jesus was actually very much against.
Demanding a specific % seems like legalism which Jesus was actually very much against.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:56 am to StansberryRules
Also my understanding is that the 10% rule is in the Old Testament.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:03 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Shut the frick up you retarded bitch
Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:08 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Why would it not be anymore?
Tithing won't get you into heaven. Not tithing will not send you to hell.
The scripture you quote makes it clear that tithing simply to check a box, particularly if you do it grudgingly, is pointless. And it was given in the context of Paul sending Titus to collect money from the Corinthians.
If a person's reason for not giving to your church is that you do not trust your church with your tithe, you should probably seek out another church.
Tithing won't get you into heaven. Not tithing will not send you to hell.
The scripture you quote makes it clear that tithing simply to check a box, particularly if you do it grudgingly, is pointless. And it was given in the context of Paul sending Titus to collect money from the Corinthians.
If a person's reason for not giving to your church is that you do not trust your church with your tithe, you should probably seek out another church.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:08 pm to JiminyCricket
Sorry, I suppose I am hijacking a bit and should not be.
I am on a tangent. Clarity of Bible (re: Tithing as example). Some say Old Testament. Some interpret differently. You bring point that Bible is clear. Yet many are debating. Why? People are reading into it and should not be; it is clear.
Nevermind. My bad.
Just struggling with Bible, the Word to eternal salvation, as written leaves a lot of discussion for clarity. And that is just Christians in English (before non-Christians read and in many different languages). Seems words could/should be made ultra crystal clear for such significant consequences for God's creation.
Post for another day. Thanks for your response!
I am on a tangent. Clarity of Bible (re: Tithing as example). Some say Old Testament. Some interpret differently. You bring point that Bible is clear. Yet many are debating. Why? People are reading into it and should not be; it is clear.
Nevermind. My bad.
Just struggling with Bible, the Word to eternal salvation, as written leaves a lot of discussion for clarity. And that is just Christians in English (before non-Christians read and in many different languages). Seems words could/should be made ultra crystal clear for such significant consequences for God's creation.
Post for another day. Thanks for your response!
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 12:10 pm
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