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Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:38 am to Saunson69
The real answer: for most people vitamins are a waste
If your diet is truly and atrociously deficient in something, then there is SOME value. But if that's the case…change your diet.
If your diet is truly and atrociously deficient in something, then there is SOME value. But if that's the case…change your diet.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:39 am to boxcarbarney
Most of us are REALLY deficient in iodine.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:36 pm to Yewkindewit
quote:
Fish Oil
This is pointless to take
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:39 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
Most of us are REALLY deficient in iodine.
True, and when one looks at things like this:
quote:
"Lack of iodine is the world's leading cause of preventable mental retardation and can cause population-wide drops in IQ in areas where deficiency is common," said Dr. Glen Maberly of Emory University's Rollins School of Public Health.
1998 CDC press release re dropping American iodine levels
... would it be wrong of me to suggest we might be seeing the effects of this playing out now? Maybe? Or is that wrong of me?
I take a seaweed/seagrass supplement for this, which is supposed to naturally have a number of other micronutrients as well:
Amazon - Source Micronutrients
Yes, the one I posted is for horses. The company has long made it for horses, some people started giving it to their dogs & taking it themselves. They started putting it in pills to sell for a lot more, but it's supposed to be pure sea grass either way without filler. So I bought the 5 lb tub and take a small scoop a few days on / a few off. The company provides a weight based recommendation for people with the product to not OD on iodine.
quote:
Feed 1 tsp per 250 lb. body weight. Do not exceed recommended feeding levels. Additional Information Guaranteed Analysis : Crude Protein, min: 5.9% Crude Fat, min: 2% Crude Fiber, max: 6% Iodine, min: 660 ppm Made in the U.S.A.
Taking less than a teaspoon a day, a 5 lb tub lasts forever.
Otherwise, I don't take too many other supplements:
- C
- D3
- K1/K2 complex (important to take w/D)
- Mg Citrate
- recently started taking boron based on lsu777 & others on the Fitness board.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:42 pm to Proximo
quote:Yeah.... like an OP poster.
GP’s don’t know what the frick they’re talking about. You need someone that is educated on the particular substance you’re taking
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:44 pm to WigSplitta22
quote:
This is pointless to take
True, it's mostly snake oil built out of a poorly conducted study of Inuits. Pretty much every such study is junk, very few are ever independently verfied and followed up to test the robustness of conclusions. That's why the will always say a study "suggests", they never actually "prove".
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:53 pm to Saunson69
If my lab results say I am deficient in something important then, I take that vitamin or mineral. No point in paying for supplements you don't necessarily need unless, there is some benefit in doing so that is documented that you see benefit from. With that said I take Zinc, Boron, Vitamin B injections, aspirin, magnesium, and a probiotic each day from highly quality vendors like Seeking Health, Metagenics, etc. I have the MTHFR gene a double mutation and have regular labs done to monitor my levels as this gene does effect absorption. I OD'd on Vitamin D and had off the chart levels and that's not good either after being deficient for a long time so I'm off that for now. I'm also on all 3 hormones E, P, and T. At a certain age I decided to prioritize my health and make sure I optimize everything. Feel better now than I have in years.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:09 pm to WigSplitta22
quote:
This is pointless to take
My bloodwork begs to differ. I switched from a very expensive, very potent fish oil to Vascepa several years ago and the benefits have been maintained.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:41 pm to Kramer26
quote:
Fish oil works.
It can be a great source of omegas, but you have to be careful to make sure it hasn't gone rancid-- which is harder to know when it's in capsules.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:06 pm to S1C EM
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My bloodwork begs to differ. I switched from a very expensive, very potent fish oil to Vascepa several years ago and the benefits have been maintained.
What changed in your bloodwork? and were you able to pinpoint that fish oil was the only thing you changed in your diet in that timeframe ?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:23 pm to WigSplitta22
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What changed in your bloodwork? and were you able to pinpoint that fish oil was the only thing you changed in your diet in that timeframe ?
Triglycerides and HDL. Both high triglycerides and lower-than-optimal HDL run in my family. It hit me abruptly at 31. I can pinpoint that based on having a thyroid condition since the age of 24 that resulted in me having bloodwork at least once every six months to this day, and for the rest of my life. Triglycerides jumped into the mid-300s. HDL was around 28 (should be 40 or more).
I immediately found and began taking a quality, high-dose fish oil, OceanBlue Professional 2,100mg (kept behind the pharmacy counter in any Publix, which frequently offers a BOGO for some percentage off on it). At any rate, they had to check me again in three months because of the sudden variance. The HDL was likely always low and I just never thought much about it. At that next check, the triglycerides were cut to less than half and the HDL was nearing 35.
I maintain those triglyceride numbers today (will turn 44 this month) and my HDL has been above 40 for a while now. I caught it early. The ONLY thing that changed in that time was me adding the fish oil. I did make the switch to Vascepa which is pure EPA several years ago and it seems to perform comparably.
My grandfather suffered with heart issues for many, many years. His brother died early in life (pre-40) and was himself a cardiologist. Anything I can do to stave off the issues they had, I will absolutely do.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:27 pm to Saunson69
I take a daily vitamin. When I turned 50 my parents gave me a bottle of geritol vitamins as a gag gift. We all thought it was funny.
I started taking them a week later and after 4 days I could tell a difference in how I felt when I got up in the morning. I didn't have all of the aches I had constantly felt for a long time. I think they help.
I started taking them a week later and after 4 days I could tell a difference in how I felt when I got up in the morning. I didn't have all of the aches I had constantly felt for a long time. I think they help.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:55 pm to S1C EM
quote:
My bloodwork begs to differ. I switched from a very expensive, very potent fish oil to Vascepa several years ago and the benefits have been maintained.
You beat me to it.
I'm on Vascepa as well and it's been incredible according to my blood work.
I do take certain supplements, always on top of a meal. My Internist of 40+ years has, over time, come to be a strong supporter of certain supplements like Berbine+ (with pepper), Cinnamon, D3, Chromium Picolinate, a proper Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo, Potassium, D³, Cherry Tart and a good probiotic.
I heal fast, (I was home after ooen heart surgery in 91 hours setting the record at our hospital), I recover quickly, I feel good for my age.
My vitamin C comes from my homemade green tea daily with a splash of ascorbic acid (fruit fresh).
Everything is about maximizing absorption combined with eating healthy and exercise.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:33 pm to Saunson69
Creatine works and anyone who says otherwise never took creatine.
Nothing wrong with a multi-vitamin, fish oil, vitamin d, c, etc either. Today's diets suck even when you know what you're doing
Nothing wrong with a multi-vitamin, fish oil, vitamin d, c, etc either. Today's diets suck even when you know what you're doing
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:34 pm to tigernurse
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I don’t look (or act) my age
Pics?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:42 pm to Gorilla Ball
I’ve also been told multis are useless, to take them individually. I’ve also read that the US receives most synthetic vitamins and supplements from China, so be sure you know where you are getting them from.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:44 pm to BabyTac
I just make sure the wife gets her vitamin D a few times per week.
Seems to be working.
Seems to be working.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:47 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Yep. Most people should be taking Magnesium too. Most people have chronically low levels of that.
Magnesium + Zinc at night has been great for me. Can really tell a difference in my sleep. Also take Ashwaghanda at night and sometimes 5-HTP, but not every night.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 3:00 pm
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