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re: Do you think JFK was murdered by the government?

Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:54 pm to
Yep, follow the oil money right to the truth.
Posted by tigerinexile
NYC
Member since Sep 2004
1274 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:54 pm to
Maybe a good spin off

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Cuz he wouldnt go to war with Vietnam as a result of bay of pigs failure... couldnt trust CIA anymore, so he said no


Nixon ended the war and his presidency ended almost as quickly. They didn’t kick him out for the break in because as we all now know all presidents spied on their opponents.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5801 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:59 pm to
AND the shot that supposedly couldn’t be made, has been recreated exactly and was easily doable by Oswald. A moron got lucky. Plain and simple.
Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
11623 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:10 pm to
The government and other folks. Lee Harvey was a stooge.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26656 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:17 pm to
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You don't really believe this right? This is what you believe, no way

Why not?

The physics and biology completely corroborate the faux “magic” bullet. Most of the theories concluding that it couldn’t be done omit that the Governor was seated inboard and below the President. So what’s your specific rub?
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12470 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:23 pm to
yes
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7196 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Nope, Oswald was a nut job who wanted attention


LHO was CIA, that's a fact. Random "Nutjobs" do not have the personal phone numbers of a top-ranking CIA officials like John Hurt memorized. Several people stated what number he tried to call when they illegally stopped his call from going through from jail.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7363 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:29 pm to
A shot from behind at that angle would not make his head go that way. But a shot from in front of him would.
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
289 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:37 pm to
The only reason Oswald was working at the School Book Depository was because Ruth Paine suggested it to him. Marina was living at Ruth Paine's house. I have always found this very interesting. No one has found anything nefarious on Ruth. Definitely something to consider whether you believe in a conspiracy or not.

Also, several months earlier Oswald had shot at General Walker and left Marina a note telling her what to do if he was caught.

Then there is the Sylvia Odio incident.....very interesting.

One of the most detailed books on the JFK assassination is Reclaiming History by Bugliosi. Of course most people have their favorites and it usually coincides with their beliefs. After reading many books and watching many documentaries, I lean toward it being Oswald that fired all of the shots, but somewhat undecided on if it was a conspiracy.

A fascinating subject for sure, even after all of these years.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12044 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:37 pm to

Would our government murder millions of young men and call it defending the country, our freedom. The biggest enemy to our freedom is our government.
Remember when Obama gave his list of most likely "Domestic Terrorists".
Veterans and Christians were his likely suspects.
Meanwhile his Attorney General was sending guns to the Cartel.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26656 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:38 pm to
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A shot from behind at that angle would not make his head go that way. But a shot from in front of him would.

So you are talking about the third bullet, and not the "magic bullet"?

And regardless....yes, the third/fatal bullet entering behind and slightly below his right ear at a shallow angle upward relative to his skull (as his head was looking down and to his left relative to LHO's position in the aftermath of the second bullet passing through his throat) would absolutely produce the explosive ejection from the right side of his head. Which would of course cause his head to jerk backwards, to the President's rear left as the bullet and brain matter were forcefully ejected from the front right portion of his skull near the temple.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Pauldingtiger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
850 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:40 pm to
CIA
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18474 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:45 pm to
Things I'd love to see:

-JFK files
-MLK files
-J Edgar Hoover's files (his secretary burned them)
-Epstein fly list
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7363 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:50 pm to
I respectfully disagree with you.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:53 pm to
LHO unquestionably was the sole shooter, whether or not he was working on behest of elements within the government is another discussion.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84895 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:54 pm to
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The only reason Oswald was working at the School Book Depository was because Ruth Paine suggested it to him. Marina was living at Ruth Paine's house. I have always found this very interesting. No one has found anything nefarious on Ruth. Definitely something to consider whether you believe in a conspiracy or not.


Yeah I mean it’s possible he was working as a solo or with one other person within Operation Mongoose but the scenario was not set up for him, he just went out and did his job. Was the Dallas trip announced before or after he started working at the TSBD? I can’t remember.

The attempted assassination of General Walker leads me to think he was totally alone. After all, operationally why would you risk your shooter for a relatively low value target?
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26656 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:05 pm to
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I respectfully disagree with you.

What is it exactly that you disagree with?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25341 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:09 pm to
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Enter LBJ
ENTER 58000 dead americans


Enter policies that destroyed the black family unit
Posted by Heyes
Baton. Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
557 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:35 pm to
The only reason Oswald was working at the School Book Depository was because Ruth Paine suggested it to him. Marina was living at Ruth Paine's house. I have always found this very interesting. No one has found anything nefarious on Ruth. Definitely something to consider whether you believe in a conspiracy or not.
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Ruth Paine’s entire family was CIA . Her dad (William Hyde ) was OSS before the CIA was established .. her husband Michael Paine … CIA . Even her Sister was a psychologist for the CIA and was listed in the CIA ‘s employee book


As for taking a shot at General Walker . You know how we know Oswald took the shot at Walker ?
The day after the JFK assassination ( when Oswald was under arrest ) General Walker says … hey , that’s the guy that shot at me ….
Real convincing ,huh!

As for Bugliosi … he was owned by the government. Given the Manson case to cover up mk ultra cia lsd experiments that Manson used on his followers . They told that guy what story to write about jfk and he wrote it .

Posted by JustDooIt
Steeelwood
Member since Jun 2006
828 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:56 pm to
Baron De Morenscheild (sp) why was he a patron of Oswalds?

Why did secret service not inspect the book building better before the ride.??.absolute perfect spot
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