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re: Do you ever worry that your retirement or savings will be taken away?

Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:34 pm to
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If there were ever a serious threat of this happening, watch the price of gold go over 100k/oz overnight


Dollars would be worthless, so pricing things in dollars would be worthless too.

Any hard asset would become invaluable with respect to cash, but if shite hits the fan, I've got no use for gold.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:35 pm to
It's obviously not a cash balance pension.

A company can always unilaterally change the interest rate or vesting schedule on which a pension calculation is based, or eliminate the plan entirely.

At least with a cash balance plan, the employee can roll over a lump sum to a rollover IRA and invest it elsewhere.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21659 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:36 pm to
this just happened to my brother he's 61 was married to this stupid bitch for 17yrs . He was a superintendent for years and ran jobs in the plants. She worked made about $9 an hour . She had a kid which my brother raised and was a good dad to him( they are still close) anyway this whore leaves my brother for another man. My brother had everything paid for and had 300k in his 401k. The judge made him give her half 150k ...
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:38 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 8:02 am
Posted by cajunbuck
R-KANSAS
Member since Sep 2017
997 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

NOT SO Subtle “I’ve got lots of money” brag


FIFY
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 2:53 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:43 pm to
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The date for the trust fund to go bankrupt hasn't been pushed back at any point in the last 20 years, in fact it's only been revised to be earlier. I believe it's 2024 now, and there's always been a bold statement on your SSI statement "only 76% of benefits will be payable after 2024".


It's 2034.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

It's obviously not a cash balance pension. A company can always unilaterally change the interest rate or vesting schedule on which a pension calculation is based, or eliminate the plan entirely. At least with a cash balance plan, the employee can roll over a lump sum to a rollover IRA and invest it elsewhere.


I understand all of that, but I'm asking for more information on the plan. It's possible the poster and his wife simply misunderstood the terms of the pension in the first place.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98953 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:45 pm to
No, that’s never once crossed my mind
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:46 pm to
The Fed has been printing money since 2008, the Treasury is losing reliable buyers every day, so the only option will be more printing.

We won't quite be Argentina, but rates and inflation will be dramatically higher in the next ~5 years and only increasing. The easiest option to deal with ballooning national debt is hyper inflation fueled by the Fed.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62261 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:48 pm to
In the sense of losing it due to a catastrophe. My father in law had millions in his 401K prior to 9/11 and filed bankruptcy before he died.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:48 pm to
Thanks.

2034 is the same year the last baby boomers (born 1964) will have to begin taxable required minimum distribution from traditional IRA and 401k accounts.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:49 pm to
Doesn't seem like a realistic concern. I'm more worried about the stock market completely crashing at an inopportune time.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20613 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:52 pm to
I work for a fortune 500 company, and I always have that slight fear that we will get Enron'd.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

2034 is the same year the last baby boomers (born 1964) will have to begin taxable required minimum distribution from traditional IRA and 401k accounts.




2035. Can’t forget the half year bruh
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:56 pm to
quote:


I understand all of that, but I'm asking for more information on the plan. It's possible the poster and his wife simply misunderstood the terms of the pension in the first place.



Or instead of a monetary payout they’ve converted part of it to the insurance payout
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:58 pm to
Get a real job and save it yourself.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:58 pm to
quote:


I work for a fortune 500 company, and I always have that slight fear that we will get Enron'd


Never understood people investing in the own company stock in their retirement plans. Such an unnecessary risk.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Never understood people investing in the own company stock in their retirement plans. Such an unnecessary risk.





Nothing wrong with it if you’re getting it at a market discount and you keep it to a small %


Most people don’t keep it to a small % is the problem
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Or instead of a monetary payout they’ve converted part of it to the insurance payout


Yeah there is likely some change that the post isn't telling us. Sounds like his wife was forced out, so it probably has to do with the "early" retirement she's taking.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 3:00 pm to
If that ever happened, you would see the use of the 2nd amendment increase..
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