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re: Do you care about your doctor's MCAT/GPA?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:22 pm to Skenes
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:22 pm to Skenes
Where they go to Med school is very important, as well. Grades are important, but I would rather be treated by some doctor who graduated in the middle of his class at John's Hopkins, than the top graduate from the University of Antigua.
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:23 pm to magildachunks
quote:There are levels to competency within any profession. I remember this poster boy for affirmative action a while ago. He was always bragging how he used affirmative action to become a black anesthesiologist. It turns out he was botching procedures and hurting patients. Dr. Patrick Chavis.
I've never asked. If he/she passed the boards, that's all that matters.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:26 pm to Skenes
I never go to my PCP. Nice enough guy but it's $400 every time I go for a 15 minute visit so if I need a steroid for poison ivy or I feel like I'm coming down with strep or something I just hit an urgent care for like $75 instead.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:26 pm to Skenes
No.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:28 pm to Spankum
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Yes, I am concerned with the doctor’s basic intelligence as well as their experience
I get what you’re saying, but they still have to pass their med school classes and board exams, and they have to be successful in residency.
People put a lot of stock in GPA and test scores, but it’s only one part of the equation.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:29 pm to Skenes
Bad doctors don't last very long on the job I don't guess.
Or as a patient, you can tell pretty quick and switch doctors. I switched my primary care doctor once after visiting with her the first time. She went to Ole Miss Med School. I wasn't impressed with her at all.
Or as a patient, you can tell pretty quick and switch doctors. I switched my primary care doctor once after visiting with her the first time. She went to Ole Miss Med School. I wasn't impressed with her at all.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:34 pm to cubsfan5150
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Was that just blatant racism or is there somewhere else that I’m supposed to look to find those ladies GPA and MCAT?
I think it was just one woman, and she admitted to having that GPA and MCAT.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:36 pm to LordSaintly
quote:That’s a fair point. My counter would be most medical schools do a lot to help students succeed. They want them to pass. I know this because I have multiple close family members go through the process. This isn’t like becoming a Navy Seal where it’s a high failure rate. The beginning of this process is a filter and we should only take our best and brightest candidates. Anyone worried about poor grades and a bad MCAT likely is not the best candidate for Med School. They can do something else in the field.
I get what you’re saying, but they still have to pass their med school classes and board exams, and they have to be successful in residency. People put a lot of stock in GPA and test scores, but it’s only one part of the equation.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:38 pm to Sofaking2
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My counter would be most medical schools do a lot to help students succeed. They want them to pass.
Good point. Spot on.
And unlike the SEALs, these schools have a financial incentive to keep them in the program.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:40 pm to Skenes
I care if they finished at the bottom of their class, or were subpar across the board.
DEI standards are being applied and have been for years. The schools don’t want to fail anybody.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:28 pm to Cosmo
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I know some great docs that sucked with standardized testing
You mean the part where we assess what one has learned?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:32 pm to OlGrandad
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As the question was asked, "what do you call someone who was last in the class in medical school"
Doctor.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:32 pm to Sun God
I show up at my doc pretty much self diagnosed and request the meds. He reviews the blood work/reports and typically rubber stamps.
Basic human wellness ain’t all that complicated. I want my surgeon to be an autist though
Basic human wellness ain’t all that complicated. I want my surgeon to be an autist though
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:46 pm to Skenes
As someone who has lived through it and is triple boarded.
There's enough boards to weed people out that mcat and GPA don't matter much.
Step 1
Step 2
Step 3
Licensing exam (abim for internal medicine, etc)
That weeds people out.
And even then, the variability between myself and colleagues is so wide as well
There's enough boards to weed people out that mcat and GPA don't matter much.
Step 1
Step 2
Step 3
Licensing exam (abim for internal medicine, etc)
That weeds people out.
And even then, the variability between myself and colleagues is so wide as well
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:52 pm to Sofaking2
My white daughter had a 3.75 from U of Texas (Austin) and an MCAT score of 510. She got into one of the lesser med schools in Texas a week before classes started because someone decided not to go to this school. It was her last choice. She set the curve in almost all of her classes and was 99th percentile on step 2 test. She’s a resident at Baylor College of Medicine now. The admissions policies need to change. Our doctors need to be the best of the best.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:58 pm to htran90
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As someone who has lived through it and is triple boarded. There's enough boards to weed people out that mcat and GPA don't matter much. Step 1 Step 2 Step 3 Licensing exam (abim for internal medicine, etc) That weeds people out. And even then, the variability between myself and colleagues is so wide as well
I would argue that the quality of a med school education is improved by improving the quality of students. Excellence promotes excellence, iron sharpens iron, etc.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 2:04 pm to Roughneck2020
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I would argue that the quality of a med school education is improved by improving the quality of students. Excellence promotes excellence, iron sharpens iron, etc.
Not always.
You can have the smartest individuals who can take a test very well, have the best board scores, yet clinical practice and application is vastly different.
The test are a good baseline for intelligence, but it's not equivalent to clinical application.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 2:33 pm to Skenes
Depends on what kind of doctor. I would prefer my surgeon, cardiologist, oncologist, etc to be old white men. General practicioner doing my annual check up, whatever.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:04 pm to Skenes
I only see white or asian male doctors, you 100% know they arent DEI
Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:06 pm to Roughneck2020
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Our doctors need to be the best of the best.
I only partially agree with that. Most primary care doctors don’t need to be the best of the best. They need to have general all around knowledge to treat the basic things that people come to them for and the knowledge of when to refer to a specialist.
The specialist is who should be the best of the best. I want my oncologist to not only have a high level of intelligence but the curiosity to investigate and the ability to put all the pieces together to decide the best course of action. In addition they need to know how to coordinate with other oncology subspecialists and stay on top of current trends in cancer. That’s where your measures of academic accomplishment are more meaningful to me.
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