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re: Do Most Major Cities Have An Expiration Date?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:37 pm to LoneStar23
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:37 pm to LoneStar23
Most big cities got that way because of the location -near a river, port city, trade route, whatever. Or they grew because of a big business in the area. So once those things are no longer necessary or lucrative, there’s nothing keeping the city alive. Seems technology will make it easier and easier to live away from cities and still work. So we may see a lot of cities becoming slums in the future. Then companies that need people present will have to relocate to get a better work force.
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:39 pm to fr33manator
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Demographics is destiny
Cities have lasted for thousands of years with the right populous and fallen in tens with the wrong ones
Give me some examples.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:41 pm to Limitlesstigers
quote:all jobs could go remote tomorrow and there wouldn't be a mass exodus
Unless all jobs go remote, I dont see some mass exodus from cities altogether.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:44 pm to LoneStar23
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Are we seeing the end of large major cities in the US?
No.
Next question?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:59 pm to LoneStar23
I'd argue that urban planning efforts with the advent of the car destroyed American cities. Urban renewal was an effort, mostly led by the business community, after WWII to revive American cities, by specifically targeting areas that were considered slums, which displaced people for two generations and contributed to lots of social movements in the 1960s. Something like 2400 neighborhoods were razed, and furthermore, the building of the interstate system destroyed the character of American cities even further.
The car, the dream of endless space, and flight to the suburbs also contributed, with the end result being that much of the country looks incredibly similar, strip malls and parking lots everywhere, some cities made up of nothing but that.
We have to change our conception of urban planning to really revive American cities. There shouldn't be hard and set rules applied to the country as a whole, but rather it should be individualized to the specific area, using materials and methods suited to the areas.
The car, the dream of endless space, and flight to the suburbs also contributed, with the end result being that much of the country looks incredibly similar, strip malls and parking lots everywhere, some cities made up of nothing but that.
We have to change our conception of urban planning to really revive American cities. There shouldn't be hard and set rules applied to the country as a whole, but rather it should be individualized to the specific area, using materials and methods suited to the areas.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:02 pm to Limitlesstigers
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You will see more things like succession movements (St. George) and the growth in suburbs in so.e of these places.
I assume you mean secession movements, of which St. George is not. We did not secede from anything. We were unincorporated and never a part of the city of BR
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:05 pm to LoneStar23
A lot goes into the lifespan of a city. Cities can even survive devastating wars and bounce back, as has been the case for many many centuries of history. Nations and cultures certainly have predictable expiration dates but cities can last for millenia if they're in the right location.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:10 pm to Stealth Matrix
quote:it’s all about the economics. Cities last if the economic engines of the area keep churning. Once the engine stops, then they go into decline
cities can last for millenia if they're in the right location.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:11 pm to chalmetteowl
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it’s all about the economics. Cities last if the economic engines of the area keep churning. Once the engine stops, then they go into decline
So...like...anyplace?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:11 pm to Stealth Matrix
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Nations and cultures certainly have predictable expiration dates
What?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:26 pm to LoneStar23
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Are we seeing the end of large major cities in the US? Will residents flee to the beloved suburbs to pursue a better life after they burn their own to the ground?
Suburbs don’t exist without a city. If large major cities all crumble like you think, then that just means people have moved to create new large major cities.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:29 pm to tommy2tone1999
My mistake.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:34 pm to Peazey
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It's the same in America. There's a reason why city centers are the most expensive places to live. It's because they are the most desirable. That assertion is critically fricking stupid.
It's actually because the city center is the best place for commerce so businesses drive up land prices.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:37 pm to crazy4lsu
Subsidized housing in the heart of most major cities has been instrumental in pushing people to the suburbs.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:12 pm to LoneStar23
Inside of 610 in Houston is expensive as hell near the Medical Center and Rice!
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:18 pm to biglego
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Subsidized housing in the heart of most major cities has been instrumental in pushing people to the suburbs.
What cities?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:41 pm to LoneStar23
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Do Most Major Cities Have An Expiration Date?
In my opinion, the question is framed wrong given you citing Babylon and Rome. Those show the differences of dynasties. In modern times, it will ebb and flow based on economy and geographical traits. Where inland cities in the midwest fell off was because of the opening of new trade routes, but if a similar city diversified its economy, it remained. Detroit went from port city to a narrow industrial economy and natural decline wasn't buttressed by emerging industries. Not the same with Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Minneapolis.
A diversified economy is one of the big variables in survivability, and most of our large cities have done a good job. European cities are just so old, full of history and beacons for tourism that even absent a diversified economy, the influx of cash inflows and historical importance keep them around.
So I would say it isn't an absolute statement, but some may become a shell of what they once were.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:58 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Yes. A victim of fad rather than transportation routes.
Nothing is built to last, and today it's just steel and glass.
Nothing is built to last, and today it's just steel and glass.
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