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re: Do ER doctors earn a lot compared to other drs?

Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by Thecoz
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:13 pm to
one i am talking about graduated with zero loans...full ride in undergrad...full ride in med school...since you brought it up
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:34 pm to
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The earning scale for dermatology has to be related to supply and demand, vs complexity and risk. I had a gruesome, yet non-life threaten skin cancer situation. Three months for a diagnosis appt.


I wonder if that's straight salary for dermatology or if it includes all the anti aging BS a lot of them do. I know a dermatologist who has her own line of skin care products, does botox injections, some kind of lazer procedure, and on and on. That kind of stuff is the majority of what she does rather than traditional dermatology and she makes absolute bank.
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:36 pm to
Google is hard
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:06 pm to
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She also added that every Trauma doc she’s worked with has been the most emotionally cold person she’s ever met. Zero emotional reaction to anything.

They have to be.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:23 pm to
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Respect Paramedics in general no, unfortunately most paramedics aren’t that good.


:(

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A good one is very respected


Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:03 pm to
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Why does orthopedics pay so much money?
I’d have thought neurosurgeons would make more

Neurosurgery pays more than orthopedic surgery. Neurosurgery is not on the list. Neurology is on the list and you are mistaking it for neurosurgery.

Neurology is not a hard residency to get into. Neurosurgery is an insanely hard residency to get into.

tl;dr - don't conflate neurology ($350k+/year) with neurosurgery ($700k+/year).
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:07 pm to
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Neurology is on the list and you are mistaking it for neurosurgery.


Well that makes sense.


Still can’t believe what orthopedics is paying tho
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:16 pm to
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Well that makes sense.


Still can’t believe what orthopedics is paying tho


Why? You realize they are general surgeons with a specialty in Ortho right? The time they spend in training is insane and then they additionally have one of the more grueling work schedules for a doctor additionally. Furthermore, a lot of the doctors that make the most amount of money are in a field that is elective procedures. A lot of orthos make their money on the best paying electives.

Many orthos have to additional work some general surgery on call shifts. So they work their normal job then have to be on call for the ER or whatever.
Posted by tigerfootball123
Member since Sep 2009
859 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:01 pm to
You are wrong. Ortho docs are not general surgeons who specialized.

So much misinformation in this thread
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 11:02 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:29 am to
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Neurosurgeons make well over a million. 7-9 year residency that they work their arse off. Highest malpractice rates by far. Terrible lifestyle.

I got referred to see a neurosurgeon for a disk issue in my neck and he asked me what field I was in and I said EM. He said “best specialty in all of medicine.” IDK if I agree or not (ask me in 10 years), but I was kind of taken aback that a neurosurgeon would be envious of the EM lifestyle. There are pros and cons to most fields in medicine, I guess.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 2:38 am
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 7:01 am to
My brother was an RN in the ER for about 10 years. He told me the MVAs and GSW weren't to bad to deal with. It was the kids and the people that came in feeling bad but talking, laughing and joking then ended up dieing on them for 1 reason for another.


For his mental health he had to get out of there. Worked in the Cath Lab for a long time then became an FNP. Now he works in a clinic treating colds and doing physicals. Much less stressful and makes way more money.
Posted by rd280z
Richmond
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 7:36 am to
No, but Trauma surgeons do
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 7:49 am to
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You are wrong. Ortho docs are not general surgeons who specialized.

So much misinformation in this thread



Maybe I’m wrong, but my father in law was a Duke med school grad and Ortho surgeon and that was his career path. One weekend a month he did general surgery on call for the ER. His first residency or whatever was a year or 2 of general surgery then he specialized after that.
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:53 am to
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Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get into a dermatology residency now?


I do.

Do you know why that is?

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No call, no major surgery, and dentist’s hours
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:54 am to
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You realize they are general surgeons with a specialty in Ortho right?


No they're not
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:56 am to
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The docs making fricking bank for (relative to other specialties) less time training are rural family med moonlighting in rural ERs and doing minor surgeries like appendectomies.


You're right BUT their quality of life can be awful. If they're the only one who can do what you mentioned in a wide geographical radius, they're going to get called 24/7.
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:38 am to
sub clinics. The doctor only needs like an eight hour course and then can prescribe it. They can have up to 275 patients a year at $200 an appointment for 10 minutes each
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:58 am to
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No they're not


Again, how am I wrong? Why do they do on call then? Why did my father in law treat hundreds of GSW’s and cut off 100s of limbs? Among other things? He specialized in Knees and some other things, he had to do on call one weekend a month and part of the reason he retired early. Maybe saying general surgeon is the wrong exact term, but they sure as hell know how to do some surgeries outside of their specialty they learn during residency. Maybe the residency has changed since his time too, but he started off with a general surgery residency.
Posted by shoestring
Member since Nov 2012
349 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:17 am to
No way he they had a full ride in med school and opted ER. Top 1% get med school schollies and no way they choose ER. Would have been a dermatologist or higher level subspecialty with that high of a rank!!
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:41 am to
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Maybe the residency has changed since his time too, but he started off with a general surgery residency.


Sounds like he didn't get into an orthopedics residency right out of medical school, so he did a general surgery internship (1 year, not a full residency). Then he reapplied and got an ortho residency spot.

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