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Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:04 am to Zachary
Most ER doctors I know are pretty fresh out of medical school so I’ve always assumed it’s a ‘starting’ position and don’t make as much.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:05 am to Zachary
One of our friends is one of the leading doctors on his ER team and makes bank.. but I have no idea what that is relative to other doctors.
He, and I imagine many other doctors, invests a lot of his time and money in real estate and plans to quit the medical field and just do that. Apparently many doctors often don’t work more than a decade in the field. That’s wild to me.
He, and I imagine many other doctors, invests a lot of his time and money in real estate and plans to quit the medical field and just do that. Apparently many doctors often don’t work more than a decade in the field. That’s wild to me.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:07 am to Tiguar
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The docs making fricking bank for (relative to other specialties) less time training are rural family med moonlighting in rural ERs and doing minor surgeries like appendectomies.
This is the truth
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:09 am to keks tadpole
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The earning scale for dermatology has to be related to supply and demand,
The plus with dermatology is that a large % of your patients are coming for aesthetics (Botox, anti-aging, etc) so it’s not just people with ailments. Plastic surgeons have the same deal.
I get my Botox at Dr Weiler’s office and I’ve always wondered how many people come in for that and fillers relative to how many are getting surgical procedures. Easy turn and burn.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:12 am to Cotten
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ER Dr.’s or Trauma Dr.’s are paid similar to other specialized doctors (per sisters response that I just asked...).
These are two different specialties.
You have an ED physician (a non surgical specialty) and you have a trauma surgeon/sometimes also a general surgeon. They are not in the same in education, salary, practice and department.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:12 am to tgrbaitn08
That’s a very interesting graph and I am totally surprised by some aspects of it. For instance, it surprises me that plastic surgeons are at the top end of the earnings scale, while brain doctors (neurologists) are at the bottom.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:13 am to Spankum
I know.. I agree. I guess it’s because you get voluntary patients vs. just people who “need” treatment.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:17 am to LouisianaLady
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He, and I imagine many other doctors, invests a lot of his time and money in real estate and plans to quit the medical field and just do that. Apparently many doctors often don’t work more than a decade in the field. That’s wild to me.
Stress kills. It's not a coincidence that doctors and lawyers are generally near the top of the list when it comes to substance abuse and suicide. At the beginning, you're learning constantly, honing your craft. It's exciting. Then that starts to plateau. And one day you wake up and think "wait, it's just this for another (however many) decades?"
Some people have planned well for that moment. Others haven't.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:17 am to LouisianaLady
ER doctors make really good money when you consider that many only work 12-14 days a month. If they worked as many hours as an orthopedist or neurosurgeon does each month they could do much better. I’m an ER doc. One of my faculty members when I was in residency worked 24-26 days each month for his first year and made 600k and paid off both his and his wife’s Med school loans. You have to find a good market. The southeast as a region pays better than the others, but as some here have mentioned the field is getting saturated in desirable locations. When you add in the influx of midlevels and contract management groups that cut hours, cut reimbursement, and replace docs with midlevels, emergency medicine finds itself in a precarious position going forward. You also have to consider that most ER docs are independent contractors, so no benefits, no health insurance, and you pay 30% or more to the government since your employer doesn’t help with social security taxes. There are pros and cons to this field, and my shifts can be stressful but also fun as hell. Highlight of my shift last night was going into the room of a 3 year old with possible testicular torsion and asking him what’s wrong and he just blurts out “my balls hurt.” 
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:19 am to Spankum
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That’s a very interesting graph and I am totally surprised by some aspects of it. For instance, it surprises me that plastic surgeons are at the top end of the earnings scale, while brain doctors (neurologists) are at the bottom.
I'd imagine that is a somewhat limited snapshot. The LARGE majority of specialists (especially surgical specialists) also have a private practice in addition to inpatient hospital position. I'm not sure if this is taken into account. Also they provide coverage at multiple facilities which may or may not be accounted for on said graph.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:23 am to Spankum
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while brain doctors (neurologists) are at the bottom.
Well I would say that is just a salary...that doesnt include the surgeries that neuros charge for.
I know some nuero surgeons that are raking in 7 figures.....their base salaries are damn near $500k
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:35 am to tgrbaitn08
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Well I would say that is just a salary...that doesnt include the surgeries that neuros charge for.
Please don’t ever pay a neurologist to perform neurosurgery on you.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:40 am to Hopeful Doc
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Please don’t ever pay a neurologist to perform neurosurgery on you.
huh? Why would I do that?
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:43 am to tgrbaitn08
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huh? Why would I do that?
Because he was talking about neurologists not neurosurgeons like you brought up
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:43 am to Hopeful Doc
quote:im afraid it’s already happened, go read his post history. Obvious someone crossed some wires up in his dome.
Please don’t ever pay a neurologist to perform neurosurgery on you.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:45 am to 1BamaRTR
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Because he was talking about neurologists not neurosurgeons like you brought up
I understand the difference....I misunderstood his post.
He was comparing a surgeon to a physician...I brought up a neuro surgeon to make it more comparable
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 10:47 am
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:46 am to SuperSaint
Why does orthopedics pay so much money?
I’d have thought neurosurgeons would make more.
I’d have thought neurosurgeons would make more.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:51 am to kywildcatfanone
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All doctors make bank
Yeah but how will they continue to make bank after the govt takes over healthcare?
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:54 am to Spankum
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That’s a very interesting graph and I am totally surprised by some aspects of it. For instance, it surprises me that plastic surgeons are at the top end of the earnings scale, while brain doctors (neurologists) are at the bottom.
Neurologists are more than specifically brain doctors. Their salary isn't surprising, considering the overlap with psychiatrists. The data provided to me by my med school is a bit different, where it is broken down by subspecialty, but generally surgeons across subspecialties earn the most.
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