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Posted on 8/16/24 at 6:33 am to real turf fan
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I'm asking for suggestions as to what to watch for, He's rather alienated from his geographically close family. My husband is trying to do the right thing, but we aren't sure what that should be.
Drunks definitely tell the same story over and over again. I’m in recovery (14 months) and I can tell you that I would ask someone’s name 4 times in the same conversation and still not remember.
He’s clearly been drinking for a while. When you start alienating friends and family that’s in an advanced stage.
I had to be forced into rehab twice. The first time I just went to get my job back (wrong reason). The second time I had lost a big opportunity and decided to go back to rehab. After my head was clearer and I could see the scope of what the disease was doing to me, I made the decision that I’d had enough of this shite ruining everything, and got sober for myself.. My 6:30 AM rambling thoughts:
-HE has to not only know he has a problem, he has to realize how serious this problem is. The first step being the most important is not just a cliche. And a DUI is not enough to scare most alcoholics into stopping long term. We are not “normal people”
-once he decides he needs to quit, the best ones to help him are recovering alcoholics. He may not listen to anything you say about drinking. However, interventions are effective. Not always.
-he may have to lose a lot more shite in his life that he cares about, until he decides enough is enough. It is not pretty to watch alcoholics lose more and more. But he will not hit rock bottom until he stops digging.
-If he talks about his drinking and cutting back, take what he says about it with a grain of salt (for now). I told people “guess what, I’m not drinking anymore!” just to save face, I said it well over a hundred times before I actually stopped.
-there is no such thing as “cutting back” for an actual alcoholic, one is too many and a thousand is never enough.
-depending on how close you are to this relative, you may want to go to an Al Anon meeting (it is different from AA, just google Al Anon meetings). It will teach you a lot. You asked what you could do, if you’re willing you should do that, it’ll help you understand. Again, alcoholics are not normal people.
-there may be nothing you can say to convince him to quit. In fact it’s highly likely he won’t listen to you. Interventions can be effective, but telling him “you really need to think about cutting back” is likely a losing battle.
-IMO there is no such thing as a functional alcoholic. If an alcoholic keeps drinking, alcohol will eventually win.
-he should really go to a meeting and talk with some alcoholics. The fellowship is great and real. Notice how I’m making a long post about this at 6:30 AM. Talking about this shite may save someone’s life (not this post, but in general), and it also keeps me sober.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 6:41 am
Posted on 8/16/24 at 6:46 am to real turf fan
I know story tellers that don’t drink and do this…
Posted on 8/16/24 at 6:46 am to real turf fan
Alcohol Use Disorder is a disease . Sounds like he needs some help.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 6:58 am to real turf fan
Was it at least an interesting story?
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:04 am to jbird7
Have a good friend who is a recovering alcoholic who would do that...tell a story over again and again. He said a lot of times he would do it probably because he probably felt guilt because there he was drunk as fuqq again....not remembering what he did even moderately sober 12 hours before.
Dude was a brilliant lawyer but the drinking got him fired and disbarred 20 years ago. He cleaned up not too long after that but he did a lot of damage to himself and people around him before that. Interestingly, the partner in his firm that fired him was the same guy that got him the help and became his sponsor.
Dude was a brilliant lawyer but the drinking got him fired and disbarred 20 years ago. He cleaned up not too long after that but he did a lot of damage to himself and people around him before that. Interestingly, the partner in his firm that fired him was the same guy that got him the help and became his sponsor.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:16 am to real turf fan
I don't know but I know recovering alcoholics will tell you their story weather you asked for it or not.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:22 am to KiwiHead
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Dude was a brilliant lawyer but the drinking got him fired and disbarred 20 years ago
Did he petition to be reinstated? That’s so sad. Man I’ve seen so many alcoholics lose shite that they didn’t have to lose. It’s beyond heart breaking.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:29 am to real turf fan
Its so sad to see people judging individuals just because they drink “too much”. I know PLENTY of non drinkers that repeat themselves. I social drink and rarely drink more than three at a time. For the last 10 years I preface every story with “let me know if I’ve told you this”. So by some of the comments, one could also say, “my friend has started to lose his eyesite but I think it’s because he drinks a lot”. I know a ton of people that repeat themselves…..and shocker..they aren’t drinkers
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:30 am to real turf fan
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Do alcoholics get stuck telling the same story multiple time a day?
Just tell him he's told you already. Pretty simple. If you want to be proactive tell him when sober that he does that so he doesn't get mad when drunk.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:32 am to TN Tygah
Glad it worked for you and you're sober 14 months, congratulations.
I will say though the percent of people who completely quit drinking is the same between those who did AA and those who did not. You will find a lot of people hyping AA, but those people already took first steps and were ready to help themselves by being there, etc.
The truth is the brain is a very complicated muscle that we don't fully understand.
The first step for any alcoholic is you have to safely break the chemical dependency (detox). Once you do that, you can work on the part of your brain that is causing you to drink. It's a very rewarding experience once you do quit.
I will say though the percent of people who completely quit drinking is the same between those who did AA and those who did not. You will find a lot of people hyping AA, but those people already took first steps and were ready to help themselves by being there, etc.
The truth is the brain is a very complicated muscle that we don't fully understand.
The first step for any alcoholic is you have to safely break the chemical dependency (detox). Once you do that, you can work on the part of your brain that is causing you to drink. It's a very rewarding experience once you do quit.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 7:36 am
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:33 am to TN Tygah
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That’s so sad. Man I’ve seen so many alcoholics lose shite that they didn’t have to lose. It’s beyond heart breaking.
Well good thing is we are legalizing weed more and more now a days so that'll help fix that problem once it's the norm.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:41 am to real turf fan
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We have a relation who drinks more than he should.

Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:51 am to real turf fan
I have a friend who is/was/is again an alcoholic. On benders he would call anyone who would answer and just blather on about bullshite. I am his oldest and best friend so he calls me the most. It's aggravating to say the least. I had to start turning my ringer off at night years ago because of him.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:01 am to real turf fan
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After the phone call ends, we wondered if being an alcoholic affects short term memory
Wonder no more, it most definitely does.
If you really did not know that and want an explanation, alcohol affects short-term memory by slowing down how nerves communicate with each other in a part of the the hippocampus. The hippocampus helps people form and maintain memories.
I’d also question why your husband listed to the same story six times. That seems absurd. After the third time I would have cut the storyteller off by finishing the story for him and reminding him that he had already told me the story. I am very patient, though. Most people would stop it after the first time. When I read this post I thought it was created by a bot because it sounded so unbelievable that someone would listen to the same story six times in the same day.
If you want to help, do not enable them by listening to the same story six times. Call them on their BS. Coddling an alcoholic like that is only helping you because you because you do not want to confront them. If you confront them and offer help, such as helping them enroll in a substance abuse program, you will be helping. Ultimately, they have to help themselves.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:03 am to real turf fan
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Do alcoholics get stuck telling the same story multiple time a day?
real turf fan
We have a relation who drinks more than he should. Currently a lost license because of a DUI has him somewhat grounded.
Today he had some good news, so called my husband to share it. And in the course of that call, he told a story of what happened sometime this week, and he repeated the story in excruciating detail a second time.
Fast Forward.
Late tonight the phone rings. It's him, awakened and probably dehydrated and sounding still drunk. My husband listens and listens and listens as relative tells that same story in the same detail four more times or more. My husband lost count.
After the phone call ends, we wondered if being an alcoholic affects short term memory ....especially this much in less than twelve hours.
We've dealt with dementia, but not that much with alcoholics.
I'm asking for suggestions as to what to watch for, He's rather alienated from his geographically close family. My husband is trying to do the right thing, but we aren't sure what that should be.
very subtle "my husband has a telephone" brag thread is subtle.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:10 am to real turf fan
I retell stories that I forgot I told while drunk all the time. So yes?
But it’s like.. the next day or whatever.
But it’s like.. the next day or whatever.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 8:11 am
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:15 am to real turf fan
No I don't think it's an alcohol thing. The alcohol may increase the number of times it gets repeated.
I think people that repeat stories like the feeling of telling the story and the experience of describing the details in a certain way. And then they want to do it again to relive the experience. So they repeat things a lot. Personality trait more than alcohol. I don't mind it as long as it doesn't get overly long winded.
I think people that repeat stories like the feeling of telling the story and the experience of describing the details in a certain way. And then they want to do it again to relive the experience. So they repeat things a lot. Personality trait more than alcohol. I don't mind it as long as it doesn't get overly long winded.
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