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re: DNA expert, NAACP weigh in on evidence in Maddison Brooks case

Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:24 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:24 am to
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You just need 1 juror to think it was reasonable a young man bragged about having sex


I get to a friend, but to the cops?
Posted by Shoeshine
Member since Jul 2023
207 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:25 am to
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Who funds the NAACP?
Stupid fricking White people.

They are the Black Klan. A hate group, nothing more.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:25 am to
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Put it this way. What is more likely, one teen male bragging about sex he didn't have or somehow two males have sex with a girl in a confined space and leave 0 DNA on her.


The defense isn’t arguing on, they are arguing in
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72095 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:25 am to
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The physical evidence is 1000x more powerful than any testimony.



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Such as the cellphone videos the perps took?


There is cell phone video of them raping her? If so, this DNA report is meaningless.
Posted by Shoeshine
Member since Jul 2023
207 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:26 am to
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You just need 1 juror to think it was reasonable a young man bragged about having sex
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I get to a friend, but to the cops?
Remember the IQ level you're dealing with here.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21911 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:27 am to
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What is more likely, one teen male bragging about sex he didn't have or somehow two males have sex with a girl in a confined space and leave 0 DNA on her. Explaining how the 2nd scenario could happen is nearly impossible.


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DNA from one of the men charged was found on Brooks' external genitalia, but lab reports did not say whether it was from semen, other bodily fluids or dead skin cells


The defense is arguing that it was found "on" but not "in."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:32 am to
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I worked for him my 1L summer when he was just a piddly DUI lawyer out in Gonzales. Now he’s trying his damndest to be Louisiana’s Johnnie Cochran.

I graduated from law school with him. I didn't really know him (more on my end than his). I admire his dedication to the craft. Getting an MS in biology stuff to become a DNA expert is next level.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:33 am to
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Then why are you treating this thread like a court of law.

I was discussing the prosecution's case, which is a discussion of evidence, not what actually happened.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 7:33 am
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
10503 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:33 am to
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You can’t consent at that level of intoxication… they raped her on those grounds alone and that puts 100% of the blame on the people who choose to break the law.


This is where I think the law is fundamentally flawed.

I’m not saying this is what happened, but let’s analyze a story as an example:

A girl is getting physical with a guy and says she wants him and she agrees to sex. She initiated it and he agrees. By the law, the male just raped her.

But…what if the male is drunk? If she’s so drunk, she doesn’t know what consent means, then how can the drunk male comprehend that she’s too drunk for consent? Why isn’t the male too drunk to know what consent is? Why

The law puts 100% of the responsibility on the male and the woman has ZERO responsibility for her actions.
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9428 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:33 am to
This story and the related DNA story that ran two days ago by the WBRZ Investigative Unit are just the latest examples of how far WBRZ has fallen. They are nothing more than a tabloid at this point. Just absolutely disgraceful, tasteless stories.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:34 am to
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Such as the cellphone videos the perps took?

Again, that show, what, exactly?

If the videos didn't show actual penetration, the DAs office is back to square one.

They have to explain how penetration occurred without any DNA evidence being left behind.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12009 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:35 am to
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Jarrett Ambeau Louisiana’s Johnnie Cochran


Put Slow Flow and Aggie Hank on the defense, and you get Louisiana's version of "Dream Team"...as in, they dream of defiling a deceased young girl's memories to protect animals.

Also=TrannyHank as Kardashian and SFP as Shapiro makes too much sense...A pedo and a bitter old Lib, sounds fitting
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:35 am to
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This story and the related DNA story that ran two days ago by the WBRZ Investigative Unit are just the latest examples of how far WBRZ has fallen. They are nothing more than a tabloid at this point. Just absolutely disgraceful, tasteless stories.

What is tabloid about this?

Are we disputing the accuracy of the report?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:37 am to
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as in, they dream of defiling a deceased young girl's memories to protect animals.

Excuse me, what the frick?
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9922 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:37 am to
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I don’t want to see the scumbags get off scot free, but I also don’t think they are 100% responsible for her death.



If someone asked a female in your life (wife, GF, daughter) while they were on a trip in a different country if they would like to have sex and be choked unconscious in a foreign language and they responded "yes", does that equal consent for sex and death?

Or is it partly the lady's fault because she didn't take the time to fully understand the language before going some place foreign?
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 7:40 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72095 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:38 am to
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But…what if the male is drunk? If she’s so drunk, she doesn’t know what consent means, then how can the drunk male comprehend that she’s too drunk for consent? Why isn’t the male too drunk to know what consent is? Why


Because women want all the benefits of equality with none of the responsibilities of equality.

Don’t get me wrong, rape is always wrong. But the notion a woman is freed of all responsibility for her actions while intoxicated while males are just as responsible while intoxicated as sober is just wrong. Either men and women are equal or they’re not.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14390 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:40 am to
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They have to explain how penetration occurred without any DNA evidence being left behind.


You’re breaking your own rule. This isn’t a court. The answer is that she was not treated as a potential rape victim until post mortem thus the collection issues and again you’re only looking at this through the words of the defense while the DAs office stated there is more evidence.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41300 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:41 am to
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They have to explain how penetration occurred without any DNA evidence being left behind.


Do condoms not exist? Also, is penetration the only form of rape?

Wow, those statements felt exceedingly grimy to type out this early in the morning. frick these pieces of shite, I hope they rot in hell
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:42 am to
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You’re breaking your own rule. This isn’t a court.

I'm talking about the litigation, not the incident. No "rule" is broken.

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while the DAs office stated there is more evidence.

Of course they have to say this. They have to try this high profile case that just became a shite sandwich.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465637 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:44 am to
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Do condoms not exist?

Skin cells will still be left behind.

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Also, is penetration the only form of rape?


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A. Rape is the act of anal, oral, or vaginal sexual intercourse with a male or female person committed without the person's lawful consent.

B. Emission is not necessary, and any sexual penetration, when the rape involves vaginal or anal intercourse, whether the penetration is accomplished using the genitals of the offender or victim or using any instrumentality and however slight, is sufficient to complete the crime.


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D. For purposes of this Subpart, "anal sexual intercourse" and "vaginal sexual intercourse" mean the intentional engaging in any of the following acts with another person:

(1) The penetration of the victim's anus or vagina by the offender using the genitals of the offender.

(2) The penetration of the offender's anus or vagina by the victim using the genitals of the victim.

(3) The penetration of the victim's anus or vagina by the offender using any instrumentality, except that normal medical treatment or normal sanitary care shall not be construed as sexual intercourse under the provisions of this Section.

(4) The penetration of the offender's anus or vagina by the victim using any instrumentality except that normal medical treatment or normal sanitary care shall not be construed as sexual intercourse under the provisions of this Section.
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