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DNA expert, NAACP weigh in on evidence in Maddison Brooks case

Posted on 7/28/23 at 5:47 am
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
185 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 5:47 am
These low life scumbags. Ridiculous! This poor girls parents. Imagine reading this.....Unbelievable.
LINK
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90504 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 5:57 am to
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"Since there's nothing internal, nothing, no male DNA, not just not a full profile or a partial profile but no male DNA present, it begs the question if anyone was there," lawyer Jarrett Ambeau said. "The absence of evidence doesn't mean evidence of absence, but in a rape allegation there has to be some evidence of penetration and that's not present in this case


Didn't they say that her private areas showed signs of damage(?). I don't know the terminology

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The driver told detectives that two of his passengers had sex with the woman in the back seat, and one of the men, Kaivon Washington, told the Investigative Unit while on his way to jail that he had sex with the woman.


The accused are admitting to the crime but somehow we are going to turn this into some race fiasco
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
185 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:03 am to
exactly.......disgusting
Posted by Mag Orange Bastard
Member since Sep 2018
73 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:05 am to
They deserve life in jail, eternity in hell.
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3969 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:30 am to
Who funds the NAACP?
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7991 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:44 am to
Well WBRZ is garbage, so par for the course.

From the article, the real victims are the blacks.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8174 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:56 am to
It’s terrible to say, but I believe a poor ignorant girl played stupid games. Her friends said she would get so drunk and go wild and that hey were tired of dealing with her. She was drunk and she ran to the guys wanting to go with them. Video inside the car shows a different side of the story.

No, I don’t think what happened to her is right, but I also think her actions led to the situation and she’s not blameless.

I don’t want to see the scumbags get off scot free, but I also don’t think they are 100% responsible for her death.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12334 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:00 am to
You can’t consent at that level of intoxication… they raped her on those grounds alone and that puts 100% of the blame on the people who choose to break the law.

The level of the crime is the only debatable issue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422435 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:02 am to
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You can’t consent at that level of intoxication

The question is, now, consent to what?

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they raped her

The physical evidence now argues the opposite. Not having DNA destroys a lot of the proof of rape.

The prosecution's case just got exponentially harder.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6000 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:07 am to
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The physical evidence now argues the opposite. Not having DNA destroys a lot of the proof of rape. The prosecution's case just got exponentially harder.


BS. They confessed to having sex with her in that state. The confession is admissible, therefore they raped her.
Posted by SouthPlains
Member since Jul 2023
505 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:08 am to
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Jarrett Ambeau



This dude is everywhere now.

I worked for him my 1L summer when he was just a piddly DUI lawyer out in Gonzales. Now he’s trying his damndest to be Louisiana’s Johnnie Cochran.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12334 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:09 am to
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The physical evidence now argues the opposite. Not having DNA destroys a lot of the proof of rape.


Why are you believing the defense when the prosecutor says that’s not all the evidence. We also have a lot of issues with lost physical evidence since she was fricking run over and taken to the hospital under those. circumstances.. at least 2 have admitted to sex and her intoxicated state is off the charts
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
657 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:10 am to
Now he’s just a piddly lawyer in Baton Rouge.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422435 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:12 am to
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They confessed to having sex with her in that stat

The driver told the police he saw them have sex with her. That is not a confession.

One allegedly said he did it outside of an official interview, IIRC. Again, not the best.

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The confession is admissible, therefore they raped her.

Puffery/bragging. You just need 1 juror to think it was reasonable a young man bragged about having sex. Not a difficult task.

People confess to crimes they didn't/couldn't have committed all the time. The physical evidence is 1000x more powerful than any testimony.

Put it this way. What is more likely, one teen male bragging about sex he didn't have or somehow two males have sex with a girl in a confined space and leave 0 DNA on her. Explaining how the 2nd scenario could happen is nearly impossible.

The trial isn't about what happened. It's about evidence the state has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.

What actually happened is a discussion for message boards and God.
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
657 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:14 am to
Bragging to police about raping a girl after she’s dead? Interesting
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12334 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:15 am to
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What actually happened is a discussion for message boards and God.


Then why are you treating this thread like a court of law.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37248 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:19 am to
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The physical evidence is 1000x more powerful than any testimony.


Such as the cellphone videos the perps took?
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6563 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:20 am to
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The physical evidence now argues the opposite. Not having DNA destroys a lot of the proof of rape. The prosecution's case just got exponentially harder.


As long as procedural rules and their rights were properly conveyed, they waved them and talked freely, etc, the confession is still going to sink them.

Never speak to the police. That said, I’m glad criminals are stupid.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37496 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:22 am to
Thanks for the context
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
6502 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:24 am to
DA: “There was DNA found on the victim that matches the suspects.”
NAACP: “Nah uhhh.”
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